New 'Omega Certificate of Authenticity'

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I suspect the sensitivity and specificity measurements of this service will not be good. They would like to consider this the gold standard but that would be a false assumption. For instance how much did they really know about manual wind chronometres and cal. 321 speedmasters before those reference books came out?
 
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FWIW, an old expert (as in, official expert, the title allowing him to work with museums or insurance companies) about clocks - but not watches, not his specialty- told me that a certain percentage of incorrect (modern, obviously transformed or replaced, missing, etc) parts are allowed, from memory up to 40-50%. So an 18th century clock can have quite a few inaccuracies in it and still be authenticated as such, it is a tricky and complex topic.

What rules would omega use in this case, what is allowed? What could they do exactly (except getting 800chf)?
 
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The model for this is clearly Longines, which is also part of the Swatch Group and has been providing the service for some time,
It requires the watch to be sent to the headquarters in Switzerland, they take it apart and check whether all parts are Longines parts which are consistent with the information on archive for the model.

However, they will NOT indicate whether a dial or any other parts have been restored. (I have emails from Longines stating the same.)
I’m sure they’re trying to avoid getting entangled in complicated situations.

And yes people use that service for valuable watches although the Longines Certificate of Authenticity is much cheaper at 120 swiss francs a piece.
I’ve seen people retrieving dozens watches cum certificates in person during auction season in Switzerland.
 
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My one Omega I would send is from about 1910 and if they service it and replace the worn parts? Worth the CHF800.

Tom
 
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Reading between the lines I think it is clear that this certificate will indicate that the watch is the correct movement in the correct case, and is made of Omega parts and any service parts are also from Omega. How much detail will be given as to what is original and what is a service part will I think be ZERO
 
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Reading between the lines I think it is clear that this certificate will indicate that the watch is the correct movement in the correct case, and is made of Omega parts and any service parts are also from Omega. How much detail will be given as to what is original and what is a service part will I think be ZERO

Your understanding would be consistent with the Longines model mentioned above.
 
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Reading between the lines I think it is clear that this certificate will indicate that the watch is the correct movement in the correct case

Hm, better not send my 1910 watch. Lancashire 3/0 size, and a non-Omega American case... which was common then. I'd hate to have "we're keeping your money" on that one!

Tom