New (improved) process for Omega Extract of the Archives

BatDad · Oct 14, 2019

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I don’t ever recall anyone posting about how “Omega” had tricked them into buying a watch due to the presence of an extract, or someone claiming they rightfully owned the watch because they had an extract...

I think this is where my concern lies - there’s a certain amount of ‘comfort’ that I find from the physical extract, the bumf that comes with it, and the physical signature - although I will confess I haven’t (yet) taken a loupe to the ones I have.

My concern is that I fear the PDF is relatively easy to reproduce - but as mentioned earlier in the thread we can ask for the physical. But will we be able to tell the difference between printed at home or printed by Omega?

I also wish I’d ordered a few before the changes.

Fast turnaround is great but I suppose I was looking for a larger online registry as well. Almost like - I’ve paid my 120CHF - I’d like the technical details of my watch publically available. Not that I’m selling any. 😀, but it means I won’t have to remember or look for the blasted extract in the future. Insurance company - here are my watches. Wishful thinking I know. 😀

gatorcpa · Oct 14, 2019

BatDad
I think this is where my concern lies - there’s a certain amount of ‘comfort’ that I find from the physical extract, the bumf that comes with it, and the physical signature - although I will confess I haven’t (yet) taken a loupe to the ones I have.

I suspect that at this point, they were being signed by autopen.

BatDad
But will we be able to tell the difference between printed at home or printed by Omega?

Only if you keep the envelope in which they were mailed. I know for Longines, they come in a plastic holder, but these can be bought at Staples.

BatDad
Fast turnaround is great but I suppose I was looking for a larger online registry as well. Almost like - I’ve paid my 120CHF - I’d like the technical details of my watch publically available.

My guess is that most people want exactly the opposite. They would prefer privacy.

Different strokes for different folks.
gatorcpa

vitriol · Oct 15, 2019

The "Extract from the Archives"
We have upgraded a special online service for watch enthusiasts who would like to know more about the production history of their OMEGA products that are older than 10 years. [...]

Isn't that somehow new?
As far as I know an old extract was available only for the watches produced before 2000, looks like now we can get EoA even for a 2008 watch.

Caliber561 · Oct 15, 2019

vitriol
The "Extract from the Archives"
We have upgraded a special online service for watch enthusiasts who would like to know more about the production history of their OMEGA products that are older than 10 years. [...]

Isn't that somehow new?
As far as I know an old extract was available only for the watches produced before 2000, looks like now we can get EoA even for a 2008 watch.

I'm pretty sure I've heard the "before the last decade" qualification mentioned before, and it was definitely possible to ask for extracts on early 2000s watches, although very few felt the need to.

kov · Oct 15, 2019

vitriol
Isn't that somehow new?
As far as I know an old extract was available only for the watches produced before 2000, looks like now we can get EoA even for a 2008 watch.

Yes, this is new.

The legacy Extract from the Archives was available for pre-2000 watches.

It's good news. You now can quickly ans easily check if the Japan Racing Speedy or a Mitsukoshi you're intending to snag is an authentic one or a a creative assembly. 😉

8100_RPM · Oct 15, 2019

So what do you all think of Omega offering a "Certificate of Authenticity" for watches over 30 years old?

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/customer-service/certificates-and-extracts

kov · Oct 16, 2019

@8100_RPM there is a dedicated thread about the CoA, feel free to share your thoughts there 😀

super70 · Oct 26, 2019

I’m impressed by the short turnaround time of the request - took only two days for the pdf to be available.

Result is a bit strange, though - I doubt that adding a photo provides a real value add: requested an EoA for a seamaster 176.007, did not put the full ref number to the request, but only „seamaster 176“, and added the photos of the 176.007 in question.
Received an EoA stating it should be a 176.001 - the ref featuring same dial/movement but no tachy-ring (delivered in 1973, which is pretty unusual, but this will go into a new thread).
I am positively surprised that the request did not get rejected, because should have been clearly visible from the photo that the movement is sitting in a different case ... maybe the two refs are just too close

simonsays · Oct 27, 2019

super70
I’m impressed by the short turnaround time of the request - took only two days for the pdf to be available.

Result is a bit strange, though - I doubt that adding a photo provides a real value add: requested an EoA for a seamaster 176.007, did not put the full ref number to the request, but only „seamaster 176“, and added the photos of the 176.007 in question.
Received an EoA stating it should be a 176.001 - the ref featuring same dial/movement but no tachy-ring (delivered in 1973, which is pretty unusual, but this will go into a new thread).
I am positively surprised that the request did not get rejected, because should have been clearly visible from the photo that the movement is sitting in a different case ... maybe the two refs are just too close

I am surprised that the form went through with an incomplete case reference. Did you withhold the number because you knew the movement was replaced?

super70 · Oct 27, 2019

Had the gut feeling that this might happen, so i did only specify the family ref - this was my first vintage project 1 year ago assembling a genuine case/dial combination (early 007 with needle pin hands) with an ‚online auctioned‘ 1040 movement ... where the seller was ,absolutely sure it comes from a 007‘
Will post the full story later in e sep thread, need to take proper fotos first

hmss007 · Oct 28, 2019

kov
Yes, this is new.

The legacy Extract from the Archives was available for pre-2000 watches.

It's good news. You now can quickly ans easily check if the Japan Racing Speedy or a Mitsukoshi you're intending to snag is an authentic one or a a creative assembly. 😉

I'm wondering if we really have to open the back of the watch and get the serial number off the movement. I have the warranty cards with the serial number on it and opening the back would void the 2-year service warranty I have on it. As an example, I have a 2541.80 (Seamaster Diver 300M Quartz) that I'd love to have an extract from as it should be a birth year watch for my son - circa 2000 per the receipt. Would be great to have this to go with it. My only hesitation is "what if" it isn't from the year it's supposed to be from?

BlackTalon · Oct 28, 2019

Can you get the back opened at an OB or AD, and a new gasket installed?

hmss007 · Oct 28, 2019

My local AD needs to send it out to a trusted watch repair company, I don’t think it’s another AD, to open and maintain warranty.

I would hope the serial number on the warranty card would be enough. Or, would be good If Omega provided a way to get the movement serial number and keep any warranty in tact.

kov · Oct 29, 2019

You don’t need to open the watch. 😀

super70 · Oct 29, 2019

If you are sure that the warranty papers belong to the watch, no need to open it. Asking for an EoA can be done by the serial specified in the papers without a movement picture.

If you are not sure that papers belong to the watch / the movement ... and want to be 100% sure, than you would need to open it ...

Archer · Oct 29, 2019

hmss007
I'm wondering if we really have to open the back of the watch and get the serial number off the movement. I have the warranty cards with the serial number on it and opening the back would void the 2-year service warranty I have on it. As an example, I have a 2541.80 (Seamaster Diver 300M Quartz) that I'd love to have an extract from as it should be a birth year watch for my son - circa 2000 per the receipt. Would be great to have this to go with it. My only hesitation is "what if" it isn't from the year it's supposed to be from?

For a 25418000, there is no serial number on the movement, only on the case. It should be on the back of the 7 o-clock lug...

Opening up as people are telling you to do, is useless on this watch.

Cheers, Al

Eve · Nov 11, 2019

kov
It's good news. You now can quickly ans easily check if the Japan Racing Speedy or a Mitsukoshi you're intending to snag is an authentic one or a a creative assembly. 😉

So they will let you order an Extract for a watch which is not in your possession?

kov · Nov 11, 2019

Eve
So they will let you order an Extract for a watch which is not in your possession?

It has never been otherwise.

Eve · Nov 11, 2019

kov
It has never been otherwise.

OK, good to know, i had no idea! 👍

EDIT: but you do state in a comment, that its not your watch, or it doesnt matter?

vitriol · Jan 2, 2020

vitriol
The "Extract from the Archives"
We have upgraded a special online service for watch enthusiasts who would like to know more about the production history of their OMEGA products that are older than 10 years. [...]

Isn't that somehow new?
As far as I know an old extract was available only for the watches produced before 2000, looks like now we can get EoA even for a 2008 watch.

kov
Yes, this is new.

The legacy Extract from the Archives was available for pre-2000 watches.

It's good news. You now can quickly ans easily check if the Japan Racing Speedy or a Mitsukoshi you're intending to snag is an authentic one or a a creative assembly. 😉

Ok, that was incorrect assumption..
I have 20 year old Diver 300 which I bought without the papers, 80002273 serial. I raised a Customer Service request to Omega and inquired about the details of this watch. Also, asked does it qualify for the Extract of the archives.
Reply I received is :Wristwatch bearing the serial number 80002273 was handed over to the UK market in 2000, therefore it does not qualify for the extract from the archive service."

So close...😁

New (improved) process for Omega Extract of the Archives

BatDad

gatorcpa

vitriol

Caliber561

kov

8100_RPM

kov

super70

simonsays

super70

hmss007

BlackTalon

hmss007

kov

super70

Archer

Eve

kov

Eve

vitriol

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