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·Make it a little bit slimmer, reduce the price 50%, add a seconds hand, and I'm in.
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But METAS is just Omega's standard certification for their movements - you aren't paying "extra" because this is just what Omega does.
Would people feel better if they used a movement that wasn't METAS certified? Then people would complain they aren't using the most accurate movement they could have, they cheaped out, etc.
Make it a little bit slimmer, reduce the price 50%, add a seconds hand, and I'm in.
I don't know about you, but I am able to set the minute hand precisely at the 12 (or any other minute marker) pretty easily - it doesn't matter if the watch has a seconds hand or not.
You can set the minute hand precisely enough, of course, but you cannot really “experience” that chronometric performance in the same way you could on a watch with a seconds hand.
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I agree with most points. I think some aspects of the older Constellation can remain in the past, the decagonal crown for example I'm glad they dropped. On the whole I like the general styling of the new model, but I think the size and lack of seconds hand are really bad and the price is totally unrealistic. Particularly the precious metals.
The examples you've given of the Connie being thicker than Longines' new 300m diver and the gold model being more than a gold Patek 6119R are sobering. Omega is losing the plot.
I very recently argued this point on Reddit too. In that case it was about the divers, the 8800 is 4.6 mm thick yet the SMP is 13.6 mm thick, while the Rolex 3235 is a hair shy of 6.2 mm thick yet the Sub is 12.5 mm thick. The SMP does have a display caseback though, but regardless the movement isn't some big problem.
I'm not happy about the price, but as with so many things today, it is what it is. One of the things working against Omega (and all Swiss brands) is the strength of the Swiss franc compared to the U.S. dollar, Euro, and British pound. This is what the Swiss government wants so our choice is to not buy new Swiss watches (this is the camp I'm in).
Idk if it's just the weak USD compared to the Swiss franc. Comparing JLC, Cartier, and Rolex precious metal prices for the time only dress watches really shows how expensive Omega PM price is.
An ALS Up/Down is only $400 more expensive than the Constellation.
Certainly some of the criticism of Omega in this thread is legitimate (seconds hand) but some of it feel exaggerated, performative, dramatic, and overblown.
Omega really jumped the shark with the size of the new release (both in diameter and thickness) and price of solid gold one. For the money they're asking, you're talking Vacheron Constantin levels of price and execution.
Two quick examples are the Fiftysix (40mm x 11mm) priced around $29K and the American 1921 in two sizes (40mm/36.5mm x 7 mm) priced around $45K/$37K.
You cannot tell me the fit/finishing of Omega is up to par with Vacheron and you cannot tell me Omega is hand finishing their movements. This is what Omega is asking for someone to overlook with this release.
And from a higher level, it's the "Omega Quagmire" they have painted themselves into.
After reading through the entire thread, it all boils down to where all the frustration is coming from and trying to tell Omega "You really need to read the room."