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My point is that there are 2 cases when you want accuracy.
Yes, that’s the same point I made, which directly contradicts the assertion made that accuracy is useless without a seconds hand.

If you want to criticize the watch for not having a seconds hand, that’s all good with me. It’s a valid point for those who want a seconds hand. But again that’s not what I took issue with, no matter how much you steer it that way.
 
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I think that the type of sub-minute accuracy you can measure with a seconds hand is not going to be something most people need from a dress watch. It's probably could be plus 5 seconds per day, plus 10 seconds per day, it wouldn't make any amount of difference to the average person who is probably not using it as a daily wear.

That's not really in defense of the missing seconds hand, which I find to be a perplexing choice.

Anyway--- this watch is definitely not for me. I doubt it is for almost anyone on this forum, because I think that most of us could think of a huge number of dress watches we would rather have than something like this.

RE: sizing: I'm willing to bet that if we were to see internal sales figures from Longines, Tudor, Omega, and others--- I'm willing to bet that this idea that smaller watches are preferred is probably not going to hold up well in regards to sales.
 
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Yes, that’s the same point I made, which directly contradicts the assertion made that accuracy is useless without a seconds hand.

If you want to criticize the watch for not having a seconds hand, that’s all good with me. It’s a valid point for those who want a seconds hand. But again that’s not what I took issue with, no matter how much you steer it that way.
You said that the accuracy being rendered useless is hyperbole. Nope. For many use cases, it is very much useless.
 
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You said that the accuracy being rendered useless is hyperbole. Nope. For many use cases, it is very much useless.

But for what use cases when it's a dress watch? I guess this discussion makes sense for the whole line (and I'm mostly thinking about the 60k gold version) though.

I'm clearly not the target audience for this watch... I like seconds hands
 
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But for what use cases when it's a dress watch? I guess this discussion makes sense for the whole line (and I'm mostly thinking about the 60k gold version) though.

I'm clearly not the target audience for this watch... I like seconds hands
Look I get that not all watches need seconds hands, but especially for a dress watch that gets worn for dressy occasions, not all week, it's fair to assert its accuracy is useless.

If you just wear it to dinner, a few hours, not only is a seconds hand probably useless, but it just needs to be within a minute over 4 hours or so to make sure you don't have to pay the babysitter overtime.
 
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I agree a seconds hand is not strictly necessary on a dress watch. It's just a bizarre omission as well. If it was my only complaint about this watch I'd be positive about the release.

That said, it does kind of fly in the face of what I thought the Constellation stood for to go "Eh, being able to use it for accurate timekeeping isn't actually a big deal."
 
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I agree a seconds hand is not strictly necessary on a dress watch. It's just a bizarre omission as well. If it was my only complaint about this watch I'd be positive about the release.

That said, it does kind of fly in the face of what I thought the Constellation stood for to go "Eh, being able to use it for accurate timekeeping isn't actually a big deal."
I agree.
 
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If you just wear it to dinner, a few hours, not only is a seconds hand probably useless, but it just needs to be within a minute over 4 hours or so to make sure you don't have to pay the babysitter overtime.
Yep, that’s a very understandable problem, especially when my watch cost $10,000. ☺️
 
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You said that the accuracy being rendered useless is hyperbole. Nope. For many use cases, it is very much useless.
It's pretty simple.

If something has use, it's not useless. You stated several times now that there is a "use case" as you put it, for an accurate watch without a seconds hand, so it's not useless. Why you keep arguing differently when you already have agreed is puzzling.
 
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I think certain dress watch designs lend themselves to a no seconds hand watch. Such as the Cartier tank or a Movado Museum watch (the one that is all black and has no indices or minute markers). But the Constellation is not such a design.
 
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It does feel like someone at Omega is starting to use AI to randomly combine different design elements to breathe new life into certain lines. There’s often at least one really odd design quirk that gets integrated with a mainline release as a central feature. Gradient dials on the new Railmaster? Cybertruck case on the recent PO?
 
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It's pretty simple.

If something has use, it's not useless. You stated several times now that there is a "use case" as you put it, for an accurate watch without a seconds hand, so it's not useless. Why you keep arguing differently when you already have agreed is puzzling.
Not everyone uses it for that use case. To them it's useless. Valid opinion. Get it?
 
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It does feel like someone at Omega is starting to use AI to randomly combine different design elements to breathe new life into certain lines. There’s often at least one really odd design quirk that gets integrated with a mainline release as a central feature. Gradient dials on the new Railmaster? Cybertruck case on the recent PO?
They are definitely using AI to re-imagine new designs. Sometimes makes me wonder how much of the human design element gets woven in.

The Railmaster is a dude since it a different dial in an AT case. A brushed case would have made it more toolish of a watch and differentiated it.

With the new PO, it is heavily inspired by the old seamaster divers. The SHOM case was definitely angular with great champfers. The bracelet was a direct copy from another diver, sans the polished center links. It's a polarizing look because it's different, angular, almost industrial looking. A little too polished but a least it was a bold choice.

As for the new Connie, think they're off the mark with pricing. Have yet to see it and try one one.
 
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EXCEPT THE SPEEDMASTER'S. WAS THERE ANY OMEGA IN THE LAS 10 YEARS WITH GOOD PROPORTIONS?

I think the 38mm Seamaster AT is good. It could be thinner, but for me the proportions are near perfect.
 
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Philosophically, I would like a seconds hand for a watch renowned for accuracy. From a practical standpoint, I like having it just to know that my watch is running
 
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When we used to think of dinner watche, they used to be elegant designs, smaller in size, with no second hand designed that way.

Dinners were a special occasion to get dressed up for an experience of good meal and conservation with a significant other or friends. Weren't really counting the seconds.

It was the essence of why one would own a dinner watch. The
seconds didn't matter as it was the hours you spent with others.

This has been lost somewhat with being totally connected 24 hours day and changing dress standards turning more casual.
 
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To follow up, compare watch designers to movie writers. The reason movies have changed on a broad scale (not going in different agendas and outspoken stars, etc) is the age and life experiences of the writers. They write what they known. Along with AI, it's no wonder why newer movies don't hold up to the classics with well written scripts real stunts, great sets, and natural light.

We're seeing in the watch industry with designers. The age and lived experience is totally different. There isn't the functionality aspect of everyday life of needing a watch as your life line, work tool, one watch for everything.

The age of flashy smart watches, phones has shifted the narrative and how do you compete. It's micro brands releasing new watches and looking for the next trend.

So they adopt those methods for design. AI cuts down on design times, 3D printers can get a proto in a few hours to a day, everything is scaled on accelerated time frames. And they're competing with each other, plus the smart watch industry.

There isn't the same "why" and "does this make sense" questions being asked as once was. Guess that's the old $42 question .
 
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Just you wait everyone. I can see it now. It’ll be 39mm , 13.5mm thick and wear like a dinner plate… it’s just the way omega does things these days.

Literally all they have to do was make a reissue of the 34mm dog leg Connie with 30m water resistance minimum and a modern movement. Why is this so difficult 😂

Not looking to blow my own trumpet but my prediction wasn’t far off 🤣
 
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Stopped by the OB to check out the Constellations in person. They did a good job on the overall execution. Dials really pop on these. They wear smaller than the 39.4 millimeter size suggests, but bigger than preferred especially with the lug design. A 37/38 mm size would've suited this design more.

Whole time I tried them on, didn't miss a second hand. Honestly don't think it's needed. (But they specifically hit the Metas talking points, thought I'd mention it)

The thickness is an issue as these are going squarely into the dress watch category. Not that noticeable on the wrist but overall needs to be thinned out for the space they're competing in with these.

One comment the sales guy said when it came to price, "Well people will get used to it." Was candid with my response that once you're talking those kind of prices with gold watches, there's a lot of competition and these fall short in comparison.

Overall, came away feeling better than initial reports and online pictures. They do look nice and if it was one of the first dress watches I'd be purchasing, would definitely consider it. Since it isn't and would be adding to my collection, it's a pass.

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One comment the sales guy said when it came to price, "Well people will get used to it."

A salesman through and through. The market will decide that, I guess...
 
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