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·I like it...the only feedback is I think they should've made the dia a tad smaller....like 38 or 37.5 mm
New 2026 Pie-Pan Constellation Observatory Model Out Now (Pics / Video)
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jjen
·At least it's sparking a healthy discussion. Now I just need to see one in person. Anyone know if they are in stores yet?
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502 to right
·I often wonder if the people at Omega who make the decisions even wear watches.
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adonalsium
··the Lone Star Watch CollectorI love this...
....preowned.
....preowned.
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iosist
·I wish Swatch would re-assign whoever was behind the Longines Ultrachron Classic to Omega.
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Caliber561
·EXCEPT THE SPEEDMASTER'S. WAS THERE ANY OMEGA IN THE LAS 10 YEARS WITH GOOD PROPORTIONS?
But your point is fair. It seems like most people who enjoy modern Omega, at least from what I see, and who I know, enjoy the proportions of pre-2016 supersizing. The old Diver 300m and Planet Ocean cases are still regularly sought after by those looking for their first serious luxury watch.
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Jakeys
·But your point is fair. It seems like most people who enjoy modern Omega, at least from what I see, and who I know, enjoy the proportions of pre-2016 supersizing. The old Diver 300m and Planet Ocean cases are still regularly sought after by those looking for their first serious luxury watch.
It's my feeling watch enthusiasts mostly want them to be thinner, and the general public at best doesn't care too much. I don't think anyone is going "Gee I wouldn't buy Omega if they were any thinner than this!"
This Constellation just continues the common Omega trend of being thicker than its competitors, but it's particularly noteworthy this time because dress watches place more importance on thinness, and they've priced them so high the competition is much less forgiving.
I also personally dislike the large diameter and the missing seconds hand but at least I can see merit in those decisions, even if I don't agree with them.
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Caliber561
·It's my feeling watch enthusiasts mostly want them to be thinner, and the general public at best doesn't care too much. I don't think anyone is going "Gee I wouldn't buy Omega if they were any thinner than this!"
This Constellation just continues the common Omega trend of being thicker than its competitors, but it's particularly noteworthy this time because dress watches place more importance on thinness, and they've priced them so high the competition is much less forgiving.
I also personally dislike the large diameter and the missing seconds hand but at least I can see merit in those decisions, even if I don't agree with them.
We also should recognize that watch enthusiasts and collectors do make up a sizable, valuable chunk of the market. Part of the whole reason the watch market has grown so intensely is because normal people who otherwise would have had one or two nice watches are now buying enough to fill boxes. Most of the content consumed online is curated by enthusiasts and collectors, and this does shape opinions when less plugged in people do cursory research on a prospective purchase.
Someone who doesn’t like the sizing but isn’t plugged in will very likely try the watch on, and just think it doesn’t fit them well. They may not know enough to make prescriptions on size, but if they’re still interested in a watch, they’ll move on to a Datejust 36, a Tudor, or something else that feels better.
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.I like the line but more at 38mm and lower price.
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rebar
·To be honest, I’m liking them a lot more now. Of the steel models, the white and black are my favorites. All the precious metals are nice too.
Still too much $$$, but beautiful pieces.
The article on watchesbysjx.com felt like a really level headed take.
Still too much $$$, but beautiful pieces.
The article on watchesbysjx.com felt like a really level headed take.
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Jakeys
·To be honest, I’m liking them a lot more now. Of the steel models, the white and black are my favorites. All the precious metals are nice too.
Still too much $$$, but beautiful pieces.
The article on watchesbysjx.com felt like a really level headed take.
I was curious to read a dissenting opinion piece so I went and found that article here.
I'd just note the author doesn't even touch on any of the common criticisms. The size and price aren't even mentioned, good or bad, and the missing seconds is dismissed as an "intriguing" decision. It struck me as odd.
Other than the size, and the price, and the missing hand, it is a gorgeous watch though.
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·It's interesting that the Milano Cortina Seamaster avoided nearly all of the criticisms we've seen here. The case diameter was 37mm with a thickness of 11.35mm and a lug-to-lug of 45mm. It also had a seconds hand.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/...axial-master-chronometer-37-mm-52253372004001
If I was in the market for a new dress watch, the Milano Cortina Seamaster would be my choice. I don't like the Olympics but all the branding is on the caseback so that would not be a deal killer.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/...axial-master-chronometer-37-mm-52253372004001
If I was in the market for a new dress watch, the Milano Cortina Seamaster would be my choice. I don't like the Olympics but all the branding is on the caseback so that would not be a deal killer.
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ErichKeane
·The funny thing is that the Milano Cortina Seamaster avoided nearly all of the criticisms we've seen here. The case diameter was 37mm with a thickness of 11.35mm and a lug-to-lug of 45mm. It also had a seconds hand.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/...axial-master-chronometer-37-mm-52253372004001
If I was in the market for a new dress watch, the Milano Cortina Seamaster would be my choice. I don't like the Olympics but all the branding was on the caseback so that would not be a deal killer.
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rebar
·I was curious to read a dissenting opinion piece so I went and found that article here.
I'd just note the author doesn't even touch on any of the common criticisms. The size and price aren't even mentioned, good or bad, and the missing seconds is dismissed as an "intriguing" decision. It struck me as odd.
Other than the size, and the price, and the missing hand, it is a gorgeous watch though.
It addresses those three points, size, price, and the lack of a seconds hand - saying yes it’s bigger and thicker than hoped, but it wears well and smaller than the numbers suggest). Price wise it compares them to pieces from brands like Grand Seiko and Zenith.
I haven’t read the one you linked just yet but I’d reckon this one is a bit more comprehensive about the flaws, while still being favorable.
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texasmade
·It's interesting that the Milano Cortina Seamaster avoided nearly all of the criticisms we've seen here. The case diameter was 37mm with a thickness of 11.35mm and a lug-to-lug of 45mm. It also had a seconds hand.
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/...axial-master-chronometer-37-mm-52253372004001
If I was in the market for a new dress watch, the Milano Cortina Seamaster would be my choice. I don't like the Olympics but all the branding is on the caseback so that would not be a deal killer.
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Porteroso
·I don't know about you, but I am able to set the minute hand precisely at the 12 (or any other minute marker) pretty easily - it doesn't matter if the watch has a seconds hand or not.
It's just another METAS rated watch. It is no more accurate or inaccurate than any other, regardless of the presence of a seconds hand. The only thing they are emphasizing is a new procedure to measure to the METAS standards without the watch having a seconds hand.
My guess is that they didn't include a seconds hand to make this more of a dress watch. But what is wrong with having an accurate watch without a seconds hand? How often do people need to know the time to the second? Do you not want your minute hand to remain accurate for a long period of time? Do you want to have to reset it really often?
To say the accuracy is rendered useless is nothing but hyperbole...
Accuracy to the second is only a plus, practically speaking, over long periods of time, when there is no way to easily discern seconds. Lack of a seconds hand, illegible hands/dial combination, whatever....
But many people do use a seconds hand, and take comfort that it is accurate. Maybe you could argue that any modern watch is accurate enough to time your tea steeping over 1:20, sure. But without a seconds hand? Most people don't need to tell accurate time in seconds, except over the short haul. And sure, it saves you from setting the time every 2 days. No doubt there.
Also, this fails on practicality, as explained above, but also in heritage. It is not the first Constellation sans seconds hand, but none of those sold well, and they were always considered abnormal for the line. And for any watch brand, the practical ability to tell time, and the heritage.... that's it for new watches. Everything a random guy on the airplane loves about his new Rolex can be categorized under those 2.
On a watch forum, these are valid criticisms, and to dismiss them as hyperbole is a little ridiculous.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerDisagree, that's something of a ridiculous last statement.
Accuracy to the second is only a plus, practically speaking, over long periods of time, when there is no way to easily discern seconds. Lack of a seconds hand, illegible hands/dial combination, whatever....
But many people do use a seconds hand, and take comfort that it is accurate. Maybe you could argue that any modern watch is accurate enough to time your tea steeping over 1:20, sure. But without a seconds hand? Most people don't need to tell accurate time in seconds, except over the short haul. And sure, it saves you from setting the time every 2 days. No doubt there.
Also, this fails on practicality, as explained above, but also in heritage. It is not the first Constellation sans seconds hand, but none of those sold well, and they were always considered abnormal for the line. And for any watch brand, the practical ability to tell time, and the heritage.... that's it for new watches. Everything a random guy on the airplane loves about his new Rolex can be categorized under those 2.
On a watch forum, these are valid criticisms, and to dismiss them as hyperbole is a little ridiculous.
As a watchmaker I don't spend less time or effort making a 2 hand watch precise/accurate, or accept lesser results on that watch than I do a 3 hand watch with seconds hand.
As I stated in another post, I tend to wear the same watch for weeks at a time before switching, so for me regardless if it has a seconds hand not having to reset it because it's minutes out is a big plus, as you have agreed - odd that you so adamantly want to disagree with me, when you actually agreed with the central point.
I'm not emotionally invested in this new release, so I guess I'm not as outraged at all the things people are hating on as others are here. I'm indifferent to whether it comes with a seconds hand or not personally, as I was never a customer. But I was never defending the choice to not have a seconds hand, and it appears that this is what you have somehow concluded that I was doing. I'm all for Omega changing it to have a seconds hand for the sake of others, because it does seem to really, really, REALLY upset people.
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Porteroso
·Well, we can agree to disagree on the very specific point I made there. I don't believe that without a seconds hand that accuracy rendered useless, and it is an absurd thing to say.
As a watchmaker I don't spend less time or effort making a 2 hand watch precise/accurate, or accept lesser results on that watch than I do a 3 hand watch with seconds hand.
As I stated in another post, I tend to wear the same watch for weeks at a time before switching, so for me regardless if it has a seconds hand not having to reset it because it's minutes out is a big plus, as you have agreed - odd that you so adamantly want to disagree with me, when you actually agreed with the central point.
I'm not emotionally invested in this new release, so I guess I'm not as outraged at all the things people are hating on as others are here. I'm indifferent to whether it comes with a seconds hand or not personally, as I was never a customer. But I was never defending the choice to not have a seconds hand, and it appears that this is what you have somehow concluded that I was doing. I'm all for Omega changing it to have a seconds hand for the sake of others, because it does seem to really, really, REALLY upset people.
The sole reason to remove the seconds hand from an accurate watch is aesthetics, and by the way I own a Constellation where that really works. For many, nothing is gained in aesthetics by removing it. I sure don't see it.
It reminds me of phone manufacturers removing the headphone jack, but insisting they will make sure you can still use headphones with ease. Yeah... OK.
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