Need help on a 1984 Speedmaster

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Yeah still a good strap for sure. Get the serial to clear up the actual date though. Also ask for an extract or at least get agreement that of you get one and there’s any issue that you get a refund.

3600 seems ok to me. Nothing cheap these days. I’d sell mine for about that... if I was selling.

Thanks. They sent me the backcase here. They confirm that the first three digits of the serial nr is 482, which as far as im informed means that i can be from 1985 the earliest and probably 1988 the latest, as the bezel and dial was made only in 1981-1988. I will probably only know the excact year if i get Extract from the archives, unless you guys have som pointers here?

Thanks.
 
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Thanks. They sent me the backcase here. They confirm that the first three digits of the serial nr is 482, which as far as im informed means that i can be from 1985 the earliest and probably 1988 the latest, as the bezel and dial was made only in 1981-1988. I will probably only know the excact year if i get Extract from the archives, unless you guys have som pointers here?

Thanks.

48XXXXXX = 1984
The watch looks good other than the strap as I said.
 
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I think its 1984 mate - but tell you what.. I'll look the the extract I have for mine this evening and confirm what mine is ok! Sit tight.
 
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I think its 1984 mate - but tell you what.. I'll look the the extract I have for mine this evening and confirm what mine is ok! Sit tight.

1984 wouldnt be too shabby either.. thanks mate
 
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48XXXXXX = 1984
The watch looks good other than the strap as I said.

Don't be so sure as your statement is totally wrong.

48M serials go from 1985 up to 1994 I would say. I have seen literally dozens of watches form mid-eighties to mid-nineties with 48M serials and Extracts from Archives. And owned well more than a handful.

Edit : indeed they were even used till the late nineties...
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Don't be so sure as your statement is totally wrong.

48M serials go from 1985 up to 1994 I would say. I have seen literally dozens of watches form mid-eighties to mid-nineties with 48M serials and Extracts from Archives. And owned well more than a handful.

Yes that's also what i have read. However, the serial nr is in the "low end" of the 48's (482), and the bezel and dial has the characteristics of a 1981-1988, so therefore i figured 1984/1985-1988.
 
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https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/serial-numbers
Scroll down to see Omega serials and years

http://chronomaddox.com/omega_serial_numbers.html
Chuck Maddox suggests 1985 but I think his list has some holes in it based on what I've read... he put that together a fair while ago

A common mistake to use the Maddox's list for Speedmasters. 9 watches out of 10 listed as from 1985 on Chrono24 have a 48M serial and have used Maddox's list. But if you read what Maddox writes just above the table :

For those who are looking to date a Speedmaster, Please link here to a more up-to-date and more specific table for dating Speedmaster Serial Numbers compiled by Roman Hartmann and also hosted by myself again this table is also approximate and barring a more accurate table published by Omega is the best we have.

You might click on the link and find out why your statement above was completely wrong.
 
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Yes that's also what i have read. However, the serial nr is in the "low end" of the 48's (482), and the bezel and dial has the characteristics of a 1981-1988, so therefore i figured 1984/1985-1988.



And this is very old and probably outdated list.

Doesn't help you to know which serial you need for your 1984 watch but probably does help to waive your assumptions about the 482.... serials. 😉
 
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A common mistake to use the Maddox's list for Speedmasters. 9 watches out of 10 listed as from 1985 on Chrono24 have a 48M serial and have used Maddox's list. But if you read what Maddox writes just above the table :



You might click on the link and find out why your statement above was completely wrong.

I see what you mean. However I read several places that this list, as every other, has it's flaws. If it was indeed manufactured in 1990/1991 like the list states for 48xx, they would have mounted an outdated/old bezel and dial which i find a bit unlikely here as Omega has always been interested in mounting the newest versions of the dials/bezels when manufacturing. I read also that people have experience with some of the earlier 48x's being from as far back as 1984/1985 😀
 
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As I said here :

kov kov
And the 48M serials at large are quite tricky.

I have had two 20th Apollo XI (rest of world) watches from 1989 with serials 48.250 and 48.253
I have a 20th Apollo XI Numbered 1000 LE (gold 863) from 1989 with serial 48.251

All three confirmed by extracts, obviously.

You can add to this list a 20th Anniversary of Flight Qualified 1000 LE from 1986 with serial 48.169 (like the footer note of Hartmann's table). Also with extract.

I am looking forward to see your extract for this watch and hope you will be kind enough to share when you get it 😉
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As I said here :



You can add to this list a 20th Anniversary of Flight Qualified 1000 LE from 1986 with serial 48.169 (like the footer note of Hartmann's table). Also with extract.

I am looking forward to see your extract for this watch and hope you will be kind enough to share when you get it 😉
Yes i can see that the 48's does not give any guarentees until you have the extract in hand 😀 However, the early 48's combined with the dial and bezel, i highly doubt that this one is from later than 1988, maybe 1989 the latest.

But we'll see - i hope to find out soon!
 
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Thank you so much. So the watch can't possibly be from earlier than 1985 and later than 1987/1988, can it?
Hi. A 48.2xx.xx serial is one of the last in the series considered to be the 80’s. MWO actually states 48.23x.xxx to be the last known in this series. So I would expect this to be a -87 or -88 according to this info.
 
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Just looked and infact I dont have an extract for mine... I just checked my serial though and it is 471XXXXX. Checked it on www.ilovemyspeedmaster.com and it predicted mine was in fact September 1985! Seems from Kov's updates too that an extract is the only real test!
 
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Hi. A 48.2xx.xx serial is one of the last in the series considered to be the 80’s. MWO actually states 48.23x.xxx to be the last known in this series. So I would expect this to be a -87 or -88 according to this info.
Yeah, exactly my thought - also comparing to the dial and bezel, which MWO states was produce in 81-88, right? How curious if it turns out to be from 1988 as it is my birth year - or even better; produced in 87 and sold in 88 😀
 
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@Jtalleruphuus did you end up purchasing the watch and getting the extract? Curious to hear what year the serial was. I'm on the look out for an '84 and this thread was really helpful. Thanks all participants.
 
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@Jtalleruphuus did you end up purchasing the watch and getting the extract? Curious to hear what year the serial was. I'm on the look out for an '84 and this thread was really helpful. Thanks all participants.

No, i ended up purchasing this beauty instead. 145.022-76, produced in 1978 and sold for the US same year. Good luck finding a 84'!