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Need Help on a LC for this Omega Genève 166.070 cal 565

  1. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    Hello everybody !

    I'm quite new in the watch business however I wanted to buy an Omega Genève and found this Automatic date 166.070 on Chrono24. Everything seems right on the pics but something makes me doubt : the TSwiss MadeT logotype on the dial seems to be missplaced. I never seen it placed like this. What do you think?

    Direct link to the product page : https://www.chrono24.fr/omega/geneve-automatic---tritium-dial---vintage-1960s--id11000587.htm

    Thank for you help :)
     
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  2. Passover Jun 19, 2019

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    Hi Trajan,

    welcome here on Omega Forums!

    Another 166.070 with similar T Swiss Made was discussed here before:

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/possible-omega-geneva-purchase-help.70876/

    If you google the reference number you will find others looking like "yours"

    Seems to be a legit variation

    What is the asking price?

    Good hunting!

    EDIT: Nice looking watch as far as I can see!

    EDIT: Took a closer look, please wait for confirmation by others!!
     
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  3. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    Thank you for your help !

    The seller wants 515€ + shipping pretty legit in my opinion. But well wait and see for more confirmations ahah


    EDIT :

    After checking more pics and a closer look I realize that the logotype is not at the exact same place :
     
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  4. Passover Jun 19, 2019

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    yeah, that also worried me!

    Thats why I wrote my second EDIT...
     
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  5. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    I just found only one watch matching with this one when I googled the serial + cal. Unfortunately it has been sold on Chrono24 so the product description is not available anymore...
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  6. Davidt Jun 19, 2019

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    The T's look odd but everything else looks correct. I think that's probably a genuine variation however the price seems slightly high to me.
     
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  7. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    Thank you.

    This is the best deal I found for this model tbh, I really like the alligator strap though.

    What kind of price do you think this is worth? This could help a little when it comes to negotiating ahah.
     
  8. Davidt Jun 19, 2019

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    I'd say more like £300-350 max (€400), but then again I don't really buy from retailers. If it's a reputable store and they've serviced it etc it's not horrendous.

    Just bear in mind the Geneves from the later part of the 60's/70's were really the entry level Omega watch, with basic cases and movements (although happily this has a 565 auto rather than a manual 6xx) and flat dials with sometimes a little experimental design.

    It's a good, solid basic Omega but shouldn't be confused with the Constellations or even Seamasters from the period which are higher quality.
     
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  9. Passover Jun 19, 2019

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    Some (golden ones) sold at Ebay for 400€...

    Seller claims that the watch got a fresh service in 2019:
    If that was verifiable price could be acceptable but usually the seller can't prove what has been done.
    Movement looks very clean

    Wait if you get more input on the T Swiss Made issue
     
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  10. Rochete Jun 19, 2019

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    For a retailer it's even cheap. If you have time and knowledge (or more time to acquire knowledge), you can find cheaper.
     
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  11. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    Yeah as I said before I'm pretty much a noob, I just got into watches like a year ago when I was working at Chanel (lol). That's why I'd rather get my first watch from a serious seller until I get enough experience.


    The movement is really clean indeed. Do you think I can ask for a proof that it has been serviced?
     
  12. Passover Jun 19, 2019

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    Just try!
     
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  13. tdn-dk Jun 19, 2019

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    Have this 166.070, I got very cheap, the case is rubbish, so got it for scrap value to get the 565 movement for parts. It has the same dial, I think it is ok.

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  14. Trajan2 Jun 19, 2019

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    Thank you I am reassured :)