Need Help - Is This Genuine?

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Another one of those "legit checks!" Planning on getting this and was wondering if you guys could take a look and see if anything looks off? Thank you so much!
 
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Looks legit at first glance, with some obvious condition issues (dial and movement). And GF cases are amongst the least desirable, so I would be cautious about investing too much.
 
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Looks legit at first glance, with some obvious condition issues (dial and movement). And GF cases are amongst the least desirable, so I would be cautious about investing too much.
 
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The lower the better. 👍

And given that the movement looks like it has been abused, you may very well need to pay for a service in short order. But you never know.
 
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Is it just the way the image is shot or does the last photo show the watch with a different crown (a service crown)? Maybe it's just an optical illusion but I would double check that it comes with its original clover crown before making an offer.
 
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I don’t understand why people asking for buying advice are so coy about the price. Most watches are a buy at the right price.
Rather than asking what would be an ideal price to pay, why not just say what the asking price is??
 
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I don’t understand why people asking for buying advice are so coy about the price. Most watches are a buy at the right price.
Rather than asking what would be an ideal price to pay, why not just say what the asking price is??
The ideal price would be "free."
 
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Is it just the way the image is shot or does the last photo show the watch with a different crown (a service crown)? Maybe it's just an optical illusion but I would double check that it comes with its original clover crown before making an offer.
It does look like a clover crown since it does have an indent on it...
 
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I don’t understand why people asking for buying advice are so coy about the price. Most watches are a buy at the right price.
Rather than asking what would be an ideal price to pay, why not just say what the asking price is??
That's wasn't my intention. They are asking $750 but have negotiated it to $650.
 
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I’m always reluctant to take a contrary view to @Dan S but I think US$650 is ball park for a nice 60+ year old Seamaster in decent condition.
 
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I’m always reluctant to take a contrary view to @Dan S but I think US$650 is ball park for a nice 60+ year old Seamaster in decent condition.
I'd agree, but this is a gold-plated watch and in my opinion, the condition is poor-to-fair.
 
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I'd agree, but this is a gold-plated watch and in my opinion, the condition is poor-to-fair.
By the way, he mentioned that it was serviced by a local watch maker and that it is currently running around 10 seconds behind per day which I assume is good given the age of the watch or after service should it be much better? Thanks again!
 
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Looks like this watch was sold recently on eBay for $650. Who is trying to sell it to you?



https://www.ebay.com/itm/135243556654
Someone off Chrono24 but privately. Have bought a few watches from him before and has always been good (so far).
 
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Flipping the watch less than a month after buying it, and for a $200 loss?
Who amoung us would do that with out a bloody good reason?
 
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That movement has lived a ROUGH life, and that case screw is rough. Also, if it was serviced recently, why did the guy not bother cleaning the mainplate? He left a bunch of crap on it.

BUT take a look in particular at all of the scratches on the wheels/rotor/etc. That means it was poorly taken care of at one point by a watchmaker.

ADDITIONALLY: The "10 seconds behind a day", while decent enough for something this old isn't what really matters. What you really care about is that it has a healthy AMPLITUDE, which you need to know lift-angle and a timegrapher (or the right phone app) to tell. Else it could be moments from not running.

IMO, your way forward should go one of two ways:

1- If your intent is to 'make money' buying a watch and reselling it: Spend a LOT of time researching to the point that you don't have to ask us about these things. Check out the 'learn to fish' thread, look at every picture/document/etc on the watch you want to learn about, and compare pictures like one of those old show-the-differences books.

2- If your intent is to get a beautiful watch that you intend to cherish for a long time: EITHER do #1. OR, 'buy the seller' and find someone really well regarded that will have done the research/servicing/etc for you and will sell you a beautiful watch. You'll 'overpay' a little perhaps, but IMO that extra bit of money is worth 10x of the work that is required to do. Heck, even just hanging out at the 'for sale' threads HERE you can get great watches in great condition, its rare for something that isn't in wonderful shape even shows up here (unless otherwise mentioned)!