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Need Bracelet and Lume Advice for a Speedmaster 105.012-66

eugeneandresson
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The first EVA was by Ed White wearing his Omega on a velcro NATO. He is also well documented wearing his Omega on the wrist using a JB Champion.


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And before Ed could get out of his spaceship, someone had to go up in one first to test it ...

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https://www.fratellowatches.com/first-speedmaster-in-space/
 
simonsays
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Exactly. This is where the JB Champion makes sense. Transferring from wrist to over external layers. But not for EVA use.
 
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If you want to get the “correct” bracelet for you Speedy, then I would order an extract from Omega first. It may or may not come back with the details on which bracelet it was originally fitted with. Then start the hunt.
 
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If you want to get the “correct” bracelet for you Speedy, then I would order an extract from Omega first. It may or may not come back with the details on which bracelet it was originally fitted with. Then start the hunt.

I think without variation the extract for vintage speedmaster's comes back with bracelet not mentioned
 
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I think without variation the extract for vintage speedmaster's comes back with bracelet not mentioned
Really? I thought I saw an extract with the bracelet specified. I’ll have to dig again. Damn, if it isn’t specified, I should be moving on my hunt for a 1039.
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I've seen cases where the extract was flat out wrong. Not sure how much weight to put to what bracelet the extract lists.

For example, a 1974 watch probably didn't have a 1039, which I think were discontinued in 1971/1972. (pic borrowed from a sales listing here on OF)

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Even when the bracelet is mentioned it only says what its made out of(stainless steel or gold), not a reference number.
 
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Even when the bracelet is mentioned it only says what its made out of(stainless steel or gold), not a reference number.
That is incorrect. Please see my post with the above picture.
 
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That is incorrect. Please see my post with the above picture.

Interesting, that is the first vintage Speedmaster extract I have ever seen with a reference number for the bracelet. I wonder if there are any others out there?
 
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I am thinking perhaps they started keeping records on the bracelets in the mid 70s, and before that they did not bother?
 
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I've seen cases where the extract was flat out wrong. Not sure how much weight to put to what bracelet the extract lists.

For example, a 1974 watch probably didn't have a 1039, which I think were discontinued in 1971/1972. (pic borrowed from a sales listing here on OF)

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There were leftover 1039s still being used on 145.022-71s. The last dated 1039s were either 4/71 or 1/72 AFAIK, but there are undated ones that were produced a bit longer. For a watch in your serial number range this isn't uncommon

simonsays simonsays
Interesting, that is the first vintage Speedmaster extract I have ever seen with a reference number for the bracelet. I wonder if there are any others out there?

There are many Extracts that mention bracelets, and always by reference number (not just by material as you suggest). It depends on whether the watch was paired with the bracelet at the factory, which would have been included in the production notes that are used for the Extract information.
 
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There are many Extracts that mention bracelets, and always by reference number (not just by material as you suggest). It depends on whether the watch was paired with the bracelet at the factory, which would have been included in the production notes that are used for the Extract information.

I have never seen any extracts for Speedmasters or even SM300 that mention bracelet references(apart from the above).

I do have bracelet references on extracts for other Omega models that also happen to be post 1970s watches.

I was guessing this was because I had not got any extracts for later(post 1970) Speedmasters. Have you got any images?
 
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If you want to risk wearing a valuable watch on the lowest grade aftermarket bracelet money could buy then go a head!

Nah, I'll keep it on its original one. Not because it's "valuable", I happen to like the look. If I decide to take the risk, I'll go ahead though. Thanks.
 
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There were leftover 1039s still being used on 145.022-71s. The last dated 1039s were either 4/71 or 1/72 AFAIK, but there are undated ones that were produced a bit longer. For a watch in your serial number range this isn't uncommon

Thank you, this is really interesting.
 
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