My 'most precious' to date has arrived!...then gone again...

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Here it is on:
Yes, I know. I figured these were like the 'welcoming party'.

Besides, their wrist time will be very limited for awhile!
Sometimes ... when i am alone at home... i also wear two watches... 😲
But dont tell anyone. 😜
Awesome watches you got there.👍
 
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I have now settled on my temporary strap, until the Bulang comes; a well-worn Stowa calfskin:

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I have now settled on my temporary strap, until the Bulang comes; a well-worn Stowa calfskin:

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Yes! Avoid scaly exotic skins. Good thing you don't like bracelets as an original or period-correct JB after-market will cost several hundred $£€. Nice E-dubb you picked up! One for wearing and staring. One of very few watches that keep you from searching for the next one 'cause you're already there...
 
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Yes! Avoid scaly exotic skins. Good thing you don't like bracelets as an original or period-correct JB after-market will cost several hundred $£€. Nice E-dubb you picked up! One for wearing and staring. One of very few watches that keep you from searching for the next one 'cause you're already there...
Thanks!

Yes, I thought going ahead with an EW would quelch the urge for the next up for awhile, but I'm still thinking a true Transitional would be nice to have, too...
 
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...I'm still thinking a true Transitional would be nice to have, too...

Then you would be stuck with the 861 movement! And who wants a movement that's more robust, accurate, NASA tested and approved, and has better parts availability?
Oh...
Yes, a true Transitional would be nice 😀
 
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Then you would be stuck with the 861 movement! And who wants a movement that's more robust, accurate, NASA tested and approved, and has better parts availability?
Oh...
Yes, a true Transitional would be nice 😀
Agreed!

But, in some defense of the 321, that's the movement that was in the first NASA tested and approved Speedmaster (105.003), when it won out over Rolex, Longines and the rest, to become the official watch of the Gemini missions.

I do like the other points you make, as the added robustness and parts availability only add to long-term wearability...
 
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Agreed!

But, in some defense of the 321, that's the movement that was in the first NASA tested and approved Speedmaster (105.003), when it won out over Rolex, Longines and the rest, to become the official watch of the Gemini missions.

I do like the other points you make, as the added robustness and parts availability only add to long-term wearability...
I think a certain watch repair man member here might disagree about the added robustness.
 
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I think a certain watch repair man member here might disagree about the added robustness.
So, you know someone who doubts the 861 as being more robust than the 321?!
 
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I believe I was schooled by our resident rock star on the merits of the 861 when I proclaimed the superiority of a c.321 column wheel versus cam lever...
Suffice it to say, both movements kick ass. And while I still prefer a well-sorted 321 to the same 861, I cannot claim it is superior.
 
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Beautiful vintage watch. Almost seems faded into blue 😀
 
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That is nice, does it look or feel smaller on the wrist since it's dimensionally smaller?
 
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Doug - please see my reply to your latest email ASAP.

Cheers, Al
 
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That is nice, does it look or feel smaller on the wrist since it's dimensionally smaller?
It's my first Speedy, so I can't speak from experience, but I don't think so.

The only dimensional difference is the case width, and that's only because of the extra material between crown and pushers. Actually, width including crown is 1mm wider, but bezel is the same...
 
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Sad🙁 update:

I had to send my 'most precious' back to the seller. The 321 inside turned out to be missing numerous parts, including the minute jumper(I think this is what it's called) where a wire was in its place 🤦. At least, that was what Al could see in the photo; who knows what else was missing! The timekeeping had been advertised as 'within Omega specs', but that also turned out to be quite false, in fact, it would only run for 22 hours first wind, 8 hours, the second, and timekeeping in any other position than dial up was all over the map.

The seller offered another EW for a premium, a small refund if I kept it, or a full refund if I returned it (at my cost). I chose the latter, since the repair/replacement of movement and/or parts wasn't worth it (if even possible to find), and I didn't feel I could trust that the other EW he had wouldn't have similar issues....

So, 'live and learn', all good now, my money is back, and the search will go on!😜

And I've already spent the refund on other watches🙄... focus? who needs focus?!?
 
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That's sad for a good looking bezel! No wonder your cat seemed suspicious from the beginning. Can you post a picture of the movement?
 
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That's sad for a good looking bezel! No wonder your cat seemed suspicious from the beginning. Can you post a picture of the movement?
Yes, I should have paid MUCH more attention to her when it arrived... I don't give her enough credit!

Here's the seller's movement pic:



You can see the wire just to the right of the bridge. Screw and (I think) spring also missing at that location..
 
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So just to point out the issue here with the missing parts, here is what the minute counter jumper parts should look like on a Cal. 321:



There are 4 parts in total for this assembly including a screw, spring, and 2 pieces for the jumper itself. Here in the watch that was returned, these 4 pieces have been replaced with a piece of wire:



Cheers, Al