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Shabbaz
·Run like hell! 
My Early Seamaster 120 Divers. What to look for and what to avoid.
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·Hi all. Thanks for the valuable info on this thread, I was considering this watch for sale just down the road from me. But now see it as a fake. Am I correct in assuming as much ? (Seller is claiming a fully restored watch). No pic of movement.
NO .... NO ... NO ....... parts are not real
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Watchout312
·Run quick. The dial is fake (notice the grey lettering) the bezel is fake (too new and untouched). It resembles the many fakes surfacing on Etsy and other auction sites.
Find something in good condition where the patina on the dial matches both the hour markers and hands. Look for the notches on the side of the case by the crown and re read all of the valuable info in this thread.
Good luck, it’s a lot of work finding a good one, but the payoff is worth it.
Find something in good condition where the patina on the dial matches both the hour markers and hands. Look for the notches on the side of the case by the crown and re read all of the valuable info in this thread.
Good luck, it’s a lot of work finding a good one, but the payoff is worth it.
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TNTwatch
·Hi all. Thanks for the valuable info on this thread, I was considering this watch for sale just down the road from me. But now see it as a fake. Am I correct in assuming as much ? (Seller is claiming a fully restored watch). No pic of movement.
Run like hell!
NO .... NO ... NO ....... parts are not real
Run quick. The dial is fake (notice the grey lettering) the bezel is fake (too new and untouched). It resembles the many fakes surfacing on Etsy and other auction sites.
Find something in good condition where the patina on the dial matches both the hour markers and hands. Look for the notches on the side of the case by the crown and re read all of the valuable info in this thread.
Good luck, it’s a lot of work finding a good one, but the payoff is worth it.
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X350 XJR
··Vintage Omega AficionadoI'll start and end with the most obvious, bezels for these have been NLA from Omega for at least 10-15 years, so the dozens of these supposedly "mint" examples popping up over the last five or so years scream fake.
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Watchout312
·Beside the the lume pip difference in the first picture, nothing looks fake on this watch. You guys needs to study this model family more carefully.
I researched this watch quite a bit before purchasing mine and while I respect your opinion, I disagree completely. The Dial, the grey writing and the lume are clearly fake.
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Shabbaz
·Beside the the lume pip difference in the first picture, nothing looks fake on this watch. You guys needs to study this model family more carefully.
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TNTwatch
·I researched this watch quite a bit before purchasing mine and while I respect your opinion, I disagree completely. The Dial, the grey writing and the lume are clearly fake.
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COYI
·I'm certain it's a fake
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TNTwatch
·So you're saying the bezel is not fake? I did study this model quite extensively because it's one of my favourite models. This is also the reason I had a lot of them. And if that bezel is not fake I will eat my shoe...
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·You agree with the fact the pip was changed right? So if the bezel is original it was damaged over time. But the rest is like nos with a black outerrim. Bullshit watch IMO. No way the rest of the bezel would be like new.
Edit: you agree with the fact the pip does not belong to a 120? So two options: 1) pip was changed on a original bezel; 2) fake bezel. So if the bezel is original it was damaged over time. But the rest is like nos with a black outerrim. Bullshit watch IMO. No way the rest of the bezel would be like new.
Edit: you agree with the fact the pip does not belong to a 120? So two options: 1) pip was changed on a original bezel; 2) fake bezel. So if the bezel is original it was damaged over time. But the rest is like nos with a black outerrim. Bullshit watch IMO. No way the rest of the bezel would be like new.
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TNTwatch
·You agree with the fact the pip was changed right? So if the bezel is original it was damaged over time. But the rest is like nos with a black outerrim. Bullshit watch IMO. No way the rest of the bezel would be like new.
Edit: you agree with the fact the pip does not belong to a 120? So two options: 1) pip was changed on a original bezel; 2) fake bezel. So if the bezel is original it was damaged over time. But the rest is like nos with a black outerrim. Bullshit watch IMO. No way the rest of the bezel would be like new.
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Watchout312
·I admit the lume pip's difference leads to other clues of this watch being suspicious and fake.
I think it’s important also to address the grey writing, while I cannot 100% confirm that the grey writing dials are fake, I can make a very educated assumption that an overwhelming amount of vintages pieces have white writing. This includes ones in great shape and ones in not so great shape.
All grey lettering dials appear on the watches that are labeled “like new” and “NOS”. The grey also appears on some very sketchy Etsy and eBay sellers who are labeling their fakes as like new.
So I would advise members looking for an authentic Seamaster 120 to read this thread and “Say Na To The Grey”.
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JwRosenthal
·Looks pretty white to me
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COYI
·Looks pretty white to me
Where did you find the hands, they're a good match for the dial?
Did the bracelet come with the watch - if so it was a real steal?
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S.H.
·I think it’s important also to address the grey writing, while I cannot 100% confirm that the grey writing dials are fake, I can make a very educated assumption that an overwhelming amount of vintages pieces have white writing. This includes ones in great shape and ones in not so great shape.
All grey lettering dials appear on the watches that are labeled “like new” and “NOS”. The grey also appears on some very sketchy Etsy and eBay sellers who are labeling their fakes as like new.
So I would advise members looking for an authentic Seamaster 120 to read this thread and “Say Na To The Grey”.
This is my opinion too. Too many "grey dials" on suspicious watches. My own for reference, printing is white:
