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Not sure where you heard that you can't swim with a Railmaster, but it's rated for 150m, so it's perfectly fine for swimming...

I was pretty confused by that statement too, literally went to check the specs.
 
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I was pretty confused by that statement too, literally went to check the specs.

So did I, just for the "other" new Railmaster...
 
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Hope the misses doesn't read this, moving my hands around water with a watch on has saved me washing up for years 😗
 
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Let me help you with that...

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/sigh-myth-busting-again-610734.html

If you can provide calculations to counter what's there, I'll be happy to take a look. Unfortunately "thinking for a minute" is not a substitute for doing the math...at least none of my math/physics/engineering profs would take it as a substitute. 😉

Cheers, Al

If you may, I'd rather stick with the advice and opinion of the Omega service guys. By the way the RM LE depth gauge is 5 ATM not 15 ATM.
 
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From what i heard all the seamaster 48s with the sub seconds are spoken for already.

Yes but so was the rumor for the trilogy and most LEs and apart from the snoopies you always find them at an AD. Do the rumors also mention the price they are spoken for? I have no idea how the 1948s are priced.
 
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If you may, I'd rather stick with the advice and opinion of the Omega service guys. By the way the RM LE depth gauge is 5 ATM not 15 ATM.

What you do is up to you - never said anything different. What the watch is capable of though is not in debate, at least for most of us. In any case this Omega service guy disagrees with your Omega service guys...and I'm okay with that.

And by the way, while we are correcting things, the RM LE depth gauge is 6 ATM not 5 ATM...😀
 
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... so I did some window shopping today. And I was pretty much suprised on the amount of modern Omega LEs readily available:
Olypmic seamaster in red ... the most wanted one according to fellow members:


The Railmaster LE I had on my wrist about a year ago is also still there:


Commander Bonds watch is still waiting for a customer:


The Cernan LE anybody?


And finally the doctors panda:


Three ADs, 45min of walk.
I've found that a little bit disturbing.

Do you also experience that there seems to be significant LE stock that does not move for a longer period of time in your area?

What AD is this?
 
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1957 would have benn the obvious run qty to choose for the 60th LEs, and might have generated some degree of scarcity hype...but we all know that is not the Omega way of doing business.
 
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Pardon my ignorance but what is that thing they're selling for 285? Don't tell me it's the acrylic sign?
 
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If you may, I'd rather stick with the advice and opinion of the Omega service guys. By the way the RM LE depth gauge is 5 ATM not 15 ATM.
The advice not to bring a watch near water is cheap and will not bring up any complaints of customers with flooded watches.
Worn gaskets don't squeak or shriek so it is generally not such a bad advice - however of not much use to me. I am confident about the maintenance state my watches are in.
The advice is in line with the deprecated ISO 2281, replaced by ISO22810 in the meantime, which stated that 5ATM waterresistant watches were suitable for taking into the shower but not for swimming. This applied to you average 5$ food discounter watch.

Service guys love to be on the save side. I would take this watch into the water without any doubt.
 
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The advice not to bring a watch near water is cheap and will not bring up any complaints of customers with flooded watches.
Worn gaskets don't squeak or shriek so it is generally not such a bad advice - however of not much use to me. I am confident about the maintenance state my watches are in.
The advice is in line with the deprecated ISO 2281, replaced by ISO22810 in the meantime, which stated that 5ATM waterresistant watches were suitable for taking into the shower but not for swimming. This applied to you average 5$ food discounter watch.

Service guys love to be on the save side. I would take this watch into the water without any doubt.

Yes certainly they have nothing to gain by telling people it's okay to swim with the watches, regardless of what their own specs call for. Their own specs are clear that the watch is fine for submersion in water if it's rated from 30m on up...from the Omega web site:



As always, water resistance is not a permanent feature, and must be maintained. But when it's maintained, the watch is fine for swimming despite what some self serving techs at some boutique might say...
 
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Pardon my ignorance but what is that thing they're selling for 285? Don't tell me it's the acrylic sign?
That scrap metall just above? It is supposed to be golf club style cufflinks, I guess.
 
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My personal view on the Trilogy watches, is that the railmaster is the best value, the most attractive, and the one that will likely be most desirable in years to come.

Time will tell.

And as to the shock and awe that lots of LE's are easily available... come on guys... were suspicious of private sellers of watches using smoke and mirrors to sell... we should be doubly suspicious of brands.

Look at all the old LEs that sat, and often still do sit, unsold in OB safes.

There are at least 2 Speedmaster 50th full big box sets still in London boutiques... 10 years after they went on sale.

There were still a couple of Alaska projects floating around London OBs in 2016... 8 years after that watch went on sale.

Don't believe the hype. 😉

Sure!
About a year ago, I did also see a meteorite moonphase in a showcase on the upper floor of an OB. But these are regular ADs and have not moved their stock for more than one year - and did also not dump it on the grey market for some reason. This has made me a bit curious on the opinion of the forum if it is just pricing or if Omega tries to push too much LE stock into the market.
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Yes certainly they have nothing to gain by telling people it's okay to swim with the watches, regardless of what their own specs call for. Their own specs are clear that the watch is fine for submersion in water if it's rated from 30m on up...from the Omega web site:



As always, water resistance is not a permanent feature, and must be maintained. But when it's maintained, the watch is fine for swimming despite what some self serving techs at some boutique might say...
Al, could you please propose to the OF Mods making this image a Sticky Thread post? I can only imagine what a PIA it is for you to have discuss this every time we have new members on the OF.
 
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I saw both Seamaster 300 and Railmaster 60th Anniversary LE in my AD’s window. Looks like it is not moving as fast as we would like to think. Too many pieces perhaps, or pricing issue?

Much more hype over these initially, as others have stated...releasing a trio of watches to 3557 each, in addition to the 557 trilogy sets, is over 11k watches of the same "release"...granted there are devoted RM, SM and Speedy enthusiasts, but if someone wanted a '57 Trilogy piece and couldn't get their pick they were likely able to get a different one.
Paid a little over 5 for my SM '57, roughly $1000 more than a grey market "vintage" SM300...worth it IMO...

Agree with the sentiments on the Speedy '57, though they do so many iterations of speedy LEs that the SM and RM seemed more of a special occasion.

I hope they don't do some multiple-variation release with the Apollo 50th next year...
 
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I hope they don't do some multiple-variation release with the Apollo 50th next year...
You had better start focusing your hopes elsewhere, mate. Based on the current approach by Omega's senior management, this is about as likely as a successful Brexit deal by March 2019.
 
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Sure!
About a year ago, I did also see a meteorite moonphase in a showcase on the upper floor of an OB. But these are regular ADs and have not moved their stock for more than one year - and did also not dump it on the grey market for some reason. This has made me a bit curious on the opinion of the forum if it is just pricing or if Omega tries to push too much LE stock into the market.

I think the general consensus is that Omega are pushing the envelope when it comes to maximum amount of LE watches produced in a year 😉

ADs will tend to hang on to models that they think they can get full retail (and full margin!) on, and quickly clear out stock that they know they will unlikey sell.

Throw in the general Speedmaster hype (not hating on Speedmasters, I own three of them!), and of course they don't want to push those out into the grey market... I mean, the internet says that Speedmasters are rare. Right? 😉
 
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"If you are at normal scuba diving depths (50 to 60 meters) you will have to be moving faster than a nuclear submarine to exceed the depth rating of a 100 meter rated watch."

I feel a lot better now that I learned my dive watches are safe at my swimming speeds while diving! 😁

Looking at specs on google... the K222 holds the record at 44.7 knots (82.8 km/h; 51.4 mph) submerged

Looking at my data on fitbit... I'm averaging 2km/h.

I don't think I have anything to worry about. 😗