Lets evaluate this Vintage piece

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I will not say what my thoughts are but lets let the community and the experts place a value on this piece.

I gave someone an evaluation of the price and they said I was horribly wrong...


14k gold What would be the price that it would sell on ebay?
 
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Has your uncle agreed to sell it so we can see who makes the best guess? ::stirthepot::
 
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If this would sell on eBay, I think it would go in the 2000-4000 USD region.
Usually people think these gold/diamond watches command tens of thousands ($/€), but they don't...
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Oh should be under 25mm
 
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Do we get the weight?

Melt plus a few hundred $ for the diamonds.
 
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Pop it on a set of scales and I’ll tell you pretty quickly what it’s worth…

Edit: just beaten, great minds etc
 
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So a few details about this watch since Phil left them out.

Details of this watch are: 66g of solid 14k without movement and dial. Has 183 round cut 1.25mm diamonds so approximately 1.83 cttw. Mint condition meaning absolutely no scratches, dings or flaws. Keeps great time.
 
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Flawless except for the incorrect replacement hands…
 
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Flawless except for the incorrect replacement hands…

According to Omega it came in both the gold and black hands.
 
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So a few details about this watch since Phil left them out.

Details of this watch are: 66g of solid 14k without movement and dial. Has 183 round cut 1.25mm diamonds so approximately 1.83 cttw. Mint condition meaning absolutely no scratches, dings or flaws. Keeps great time.

Current market eBay selling price less 15% commission = $4,000 (best case)
Value of $4,200 in an S&P index fund at time of original purchase now = $300,000 (before capital gains tax)
Sentimental value = priceless 😀
 
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Current market eBay selling price less 15% commission = $4,000 (best case)
Value of $4,200 in an S&P index fund at time of original purchase now = $300,000 (before capital gains tax)
Sentimental value = priceless 😀
Well I’m not sentimental and I’m not saying it’s worth $300,000 but I am saying in my opinion I’ll fetch $4000-$6000 depending on the buyer and where I sell it. Definitely not worth Gold Value only.
 
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Well I’m not sentimental and I’m not saying it’s worth $300,000 but I am saying in my opinion I’ll fetch $4000-$6000 depending on the buyer and where I sell it. Definitely not worth Gold Value only.

Well, are you looking for fair market value or retail price? I think fair market value is close to the price of gold melt. Maybe melt + $500 if people are interested. There are many popular vintage solid gold Omega models that don't even reach the $4000-$6000 range and some have more gold.

Keep in mind that in the not so distant past people were still actively melting Rolex Day-Dates and they used to trade a little over spot. They were considered "Junk." While, this particular perspective has changed, it hasn't with many other watches (and brands). A year or two ago, I walked into a Cash for Gold shop and saw a solid gold Piaget Polo. It was priced a couple hundred dollars over spot and they couldn't get rid of it.

The issue with the watch posted here, is that the design hasn't come back. Will it? Who knows. Watches with integrated mesh bracelets like that haven't been popular in a few decades and many of them still get melted down for the quick cash. If you jump on ebay, you'll see some PPs and APs with integrated mesh bracelets listed in the range you mentioned and they're not particularly flying off the shelves.

That being said, it is totally possible for a jeweler to put this watch in a case, slap an $8k price on it and eventually sell It to someone for $6k. Jeweler markups are obviously high and often unrelated to the reasonable market value.

This is one of those watches where I'd recommend somebody hold on to it if they don't need to sell it, because a dealer and the average buyer won't value it highly. However, these perspectives can and do change.
 
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Well I’m not sentimental and I’m not saying it’s worth $300,000 but I am saying in my opinion I’ll fetch $4000-$6000 depending on the buyer and where I sell it. Definitely not worth Gold Value only.

Well, good luck then. 😀

In those discussions I sometimes wonder what people mean by “value”. Is it possible that there’s someone out there who’d pay 6k for it? Yes. It might take you years to find that person.

To me, “value” is rather what it’d achieve if put on auction, no-reserve, letting the market do its thing. And I don’t see this sell for more than gold value plus diamond value - a little less, actually, because someone will want to make a profit.

Bottom line: first number of its “market value” will be a 3, and only if this goes really well for you.
 
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Seems the gold is worth about £1700 GBP.

The diamonds have little/no value. The watch isn’t a popular design.

It unfortunate but I don’t think anyone would pay a premium over scrap for this watch, which I know sounds absurd.

I’m sure a dealer would ask around £3500 and have it sitting for months or years. However, I think a trade/auction price would be slightly under scrap at around £1600.
 
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Gentlemen no longer wear 25mm diamond studded watches, at least not in the Western world. In essence it’s a gold ladies cocktail watch, there is next to no collector value so prices are kept low by lack of demand. The other big drag is the fixed integrated bracelet. There’s usually only a small window of fitment with those and they are ruinously expensive to alter. If you wanted to use it as a watch it also inevitably needs a service so that is another $200-300 drag on its value.

I work in the diamond trade. You would be very surprised how little value melee stones like those have in resale, less than $200 in fact so they add little intrinsic value.

Unless this has some provenance we are not yet aware of, as many have said above above I doubt you’d get much more than melt plus a very small amount in an open market sale.

Personally I’d give £1,850 for it and not a penny more. That’s circa $2200. You may do better, you may not.

ps the close up dial shot looks to show single cut (8 cut) not full cut diamonds so I'd revise my estimate of the stone value down to $100-$150 tops for those if the carat weight is as high as estimated, less if as I suspect it is lower.
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Tony Montana & Co are dead or behind bars, today's "entrepreneurs" wear pateks not Omegas. So not much value in western markets, maybe Asia?