Learning to polish (tips)?

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I am going to use the “P” word. I want to lean some polishing skills on some older non-collectible watches. I watched a YouTube video and have some stuff on the way (pictured below). I bow to your collective wisdom and would love to hear any tips and tricks you have to offer.
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We are ready for the before-and-afters. ::popcorn::

But seriously, I have watched videos of people polishing watch cases correctly, and you can just tell it's the type of dexterity and skill that comes from hundreds (if not thousands) of hours of repetition. No reason you can't learn to do it if you're motivated.
 
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Much better results from a stationary buffer rather than a rotary tool, even a good one.

Mask your edges.
 
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First thing I'd suggest is to leave the hand held tools alone - contrary to popular belief, these are really not used when refinishing cases. In the refinishing training I've received from both Omega and Rolex, a hand held rotary tool was not ever used.

Get yourself a proper bench lathe (polishing set-up) that uses large buffs. 4 inch diameter are fine, but often larger buffs are used...this is the polishing room at JLC:



As you can see, these are very large wheels. Wheels of differing profiles are used for hard to get to areas:



Note the wheel at the very end of the spindle in the foreground.

For compounds, what are you planning on polishing? The white and red are basically for precious metals - that's not to say they won't work for steels though.

Personally the only Dialux I use is grey - this is a more aggressive compound for removing heavier scratches in hard materials, such as stainless. I generally use this with a hard felt buff that doesn't wrap around the surface I'm refinishing when pressure is applied - this is how you preserve sharp edges. It brings up a good shine, and then all that is needed is a colouring compound that applies that final lustre. For that I used an unstitched muslin buff, with Picasso Blue compound.

Some other things...

Keeps your buffs separated and organized. Don't mix compounds on a single buff, and keep the buffs clean. Let the compound do the work. Trying to remove too much to get every last bit of that deep ding or gouge out, is when you are most likely to ruin the shape of the case, so be conservative with how much you remove.

Use an air extractor or wear a mask - both if you feel it's needed.

You have nothing there to accomplish other surface finishes - nothing to apply a grained or brushed finish with...not sure if you are only polishing, but if not that has to be considered as well.
 
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While I’m no watchmaker, one suggestion is don’t take shortcuts. A collector I know locally did a lot of his own servicing and had some tools and polishing equipment from his work on high end brass model trains.

I’d noticed that serval of the watches he had polished had the tips rounded off or worn through on the lugs, particularly things like Seamaster De Villes and other Omega dress watches with sharp flat lugs. He posted a video to IG of him doing it and he was masking off the crystal in some cases then polishing the lugs, or not removing the removable bezel to allow better access to the flat surface. In that video he proudly demonstrated you could see the square tip of a watch come out rounded with wear-through.

Now every time I see an eBay watch with the tips ground off on all four corners, which is more common when you start looking for it, I wonder if that’s what did it.
 
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Also get some specialised heat proof masking tape, can't remember what it is called, so you can choose the parts you want to polish and mask off the parts you don't.
Less is more. Little bit, check, little bit, check etc etc. You can't put back material if you have removed too much (at least not easily and not with the type of kit only specialists have).
 
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Also get some specialised heat proof masking tape, can't remember what it is called, so you can choose the parts you want to polish and mask off the parts you don't.
Less is more. Little bit, check, little bit, check etc etc. You can't put back material if you have removed too much (at least not easily and not with the type of kit only specialists have).

Kapton tape - it's very useful for refinishing things like bracelets. I don't use it much on cases.
 
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I am going to use the “P” word. I want to lean some polishing skills on some older non-collectible watches. I watched a YouTube video and have some stuff on the way (pictured below). I bow to your collective wisdom and would love to hear any tips and tricks you have to offer.
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Polishing agents tend to be dedicated to specific metals. I. E. Gold, stainless steel, platinum, etc. Be certain you use the correct agent for the metal you wish to polish. THEN, once a particular buffing wheel has been used for a particular polishing agent, that buffing wheel should NEVER be used for any other polishing agent! Also, the material used in buffing wheels should be considered in light of what stage you are at in polishing a particular item. Soft and hard laminated fabric buffs are used at different stages in polishing. Before deploying any particular buffing wheel, make CERTAIN the item you are polishing is scrupulously clean of polishing agent before you go to the next buff!
 
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I learn from buggering stuff up, if I were you I would get a scrap case and do the opposite of all the advice above to see the mess I could have made of something good!
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I would advise starting gently and minimally with Cape Cod cloth. I did this with my SS Reverso, a scratch magnet, and had good results. A Dremel is a wonderful tool for shaping and removing material but it concentrates a lot of power in a small area. Easy to get carried away. Here is a link to my post.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/cape-cod-cloths.112325/
 
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I’ve heard that Boeing offers a good introduction to metal polishing course. Oh, never mind. :D
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I am overwhelmed by all the thoughtful and informative responses. I have purchased several nice Lady’s Seikos at about USD $30 a piece that I intend to give as gifts for family. I’ll watch the classifieds for a lathe, and will post the before and after pics in this thread. I’ll practice on some junk watches I have. Thanks all!
 
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I ordered a cheap buffing lathe from China that looks just like the one on Essingers, but is a lot cheaper. I also have some practice watches on the way. Will post photos of the watches when they arrive. Here are the practice watches.
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I have a large family consisting of a brother, sister, their spouses, my step-mother, and and eight nieces and nephews. Attached are photos of the watches I intend to restore after practicing on the junk ones above. My dad's watch box is full and does not want any more at this time.
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Sister and her husband.
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Her three kids (two are pictured below). I got Baby-Gs for the youngest ones since they are still figuring out the hands.
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By Brother's wife, oldest daughter, and middle daughter.
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I wend with G-Shocks for my brother (so he would have one like his kids), and Baby-Gs for his triplets and my sister's youngest daughter. I might try the white paste to do a light buff on these and polywatch.
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I would be cautious polishing some of those as they are plated - one gold for sure, and some of the silvery watches might be chromed.
 
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I would be cautious polishing some of those as they are plated - one gold for sure, and some of the silvery watches might be chromed.
Ok, I will stick with a light buff on those.
 
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Ok, I will stick with a light buff on those.

You will take the plating off...
 
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Thanks Archer I really appreciate it. I will stick to a polishing cloth on GP and Chrome Plate.
 
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High speed, powerful polishing machines tend to rip stuff out of your hands, and fire them at high speed. I suggest you refrain from learning on other people’s stuff! Stay away from jewellery items, especially chains!