Learning to fish, Omega Connie analysis

Hello all,

Noob among the noob I am looking into Omega constellation purchase for my coming wedding in May.
I am trying to find a vintage watch in solid pink gold and starting my education about this.

After spending some time reading through various threads here and starting my education on Desmond's blog I thought the best would be to start exchanging with the forum members to learn more.

I have spotted something strange going for auction in my region and was wondering if any of you would have feedback on this connie.



Sorry for the quality and the lack of pictures but the auction house, was clearly not particularly interested on this one...
So as much as I can tell for now this is announced by the auction house to be a solid pink gold model, with a pie pan dial.
They dated it from the 70s with a 35mm width.
No mouvement or back pictures available only one picture is provided, but mouvement and case announced to be Omega signed.
Glass is also supposed to be signed



So far by looking at this low quality picture, I am thinking the following:
- This is probably not a pink gold but instead a yellow gold. As I am slightly color blind any how to tell tips would be highly appreciated.
- Omega Logo and Name are applied
- The text on the dial showing CHRONOMETRE
- The dial looks interesting with arrow heads without recess and a lovely pie pan design
- From the actual picture the font seems rather ok but impossible to confirm
- Cannot see any evident signed of dial refinishing
- Can tell anything about the hands due to picture quality only that sizing seems right

I must admit my hopes are this is an under cover, Grand Luxe version as it is looking a lot like a case OT2930 shown by Desmond.

So I am planning a trip to the auction house to have a look in person to this watch.
Below are the points I will check:
- Back of the watch and sharpness of the details stars etc
- Crown signed or not
- Try to take better pictures to be shared in the thread if possible

I assume in an auction house it won't be possible to have access to the mouvement or the inside of the watch so only supposition on the mouvement will be possible.

Any recommendations or feedback from the experienced members will be highly appreciated on your best guess concerning the watch date, things to look for while in the auction house, questions and remarks participating to my education.

Best wishes to all of you,

Best wishes to you, too.
With that blurry picture, I have nothing to say.
One thing to remind you that style was listed as Grand Luxe and by the books, Grand Luxe is something higher than De Luxe.
And because it is in higher grade, you should pay more.
It is not the case here.
To me, De Luxe looks nicer on the wrist and in my collection, no Grand Luxe left.
Only De Luxe remaining 😁.
Best of luck.

Thanks for the reminder.
Definitely need to take some better picture in the auction house...
Just to be sure I understand your remark correctly this style with the hooded lugs is supposed to be a Grand Luxe. However this is not the case here? Do you mean this is a De Luxe with hooded lugs? Not sure I understood this part correctly

It is indeed too hard to judge with this photo, I suggest you take a close front picture of the dial and of the back of the case, to start with. Looking at this photo only, the dial seems original and the case looks to be a bit polished, but you need better pictures.

Thanks good to know.
All feedback so far are clearly underlining the need to see this in person.

Thanks for this feedbacks and the bay link. Really interesting to have a comparison point.
So it confirms that it might well be an OT2930 not precisely identified by the auction house.
Thanks for the tip regarding the gold color, I will bring a rose gold item to compare in live.

Thanks to all for your inputs, great to see such wealth of knowledge shared in such a short time.
Definitely motivating me to visiting the auction house.

thanks for the precision will take a yellow gold item with me to compare and update you guys with pictures as soon as I see this IRL.

Good advice to bring an 18k yellow gold piece for comparison. Also understand that rose gold can vary as well, sometimes called pink gold and other times red gold. I attach two scans of an 18k 2644 cal 332 in rose gold.

Thanks Cristos, that is what I thought about the estimate being far off.

I already knew this was going to be a costly experience... @qazwsx1, 👍 you are directly entering my corrupting members list, beautiful watches BTW.

I suppose a more rational approach would be to acquire, 10K, 14K, 18K, gold filled and caped in both yellow, grey and pink to really ease the comparison.😉

Back to the watch analysis, I rang the auction house and got additional details:
- Watch is working (no guarantee)
- Back case marked 2930
- Serial in the 15,7 million
- Calibre 505

Something trivial here, but make sure you do your maths before bidding. Auctions houses usually include a buyer premium of 25-30% of the hammer price. Make sure you know exactly how much it is. You can sometime reduce the fee by bidding in person rather than online. Ensure you have enough bidding limit as this can be more than what they give to first timers.
Do all calculations before and know exactly your upper limit.

Thx Luke.
Yes that one of the point of this thread being able to do the math correctly before attending the auction.
I’ll detail my calculations in the thread once I get the chance to see the watch for experienced members comments.

Finally the auction house decided to add new pictures, assuming they received a lot of calls 😉




Actual questions based on these pictures:
- What are you thinking about the polishing level?
- On the dial only some marks visible at 2 and 3 o clock. I do not like this but does it screams refinishing to you?

Mouvement, here I must admit I have no real clue about what I should expect.
Based on Desmond's bible I can tell that the swan neck micro-regulator is the right one for a 505 but that is about all.
I do not like at all the stained area but am not knowing enough to estimate the seriousness of this or potential cause.

Any inputs please shoot at me, education in progress 😁