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I can't bear to watch films involving something I know about. Hidden Figures -- apparently you could learn how to rewire the back-plane of an IBM 360 by reading Teach yourself Fortran.
Lawrence of Arabia
I can't bear to watch films involving something I know about. Hidden Figures -- apparently you could learn how to rewire the back-plane of an IBM 360 by reading Teach yourself Fortran.
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Dsloan
·I quite enjoy the film, even if there is not one single female character in it. (might be some in the background and I think some dead ones are seen.) Does make for an interesting statement by the film makers.
While the film wouldn't pass the Bechdel Test, it was at least edited by Anne V. Coates. It's a strange thing about that era - lots of famous movies that had to be figured out in post by talented women in the editing suite.
I agree that it is a visually spectacular film. Great compositions throughout. Pretty much any frame you could pause and print as a photo.
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Omegafanman
·While the film wouldn't pass the Bechdel Test, it was at least edited by Anne V. Coates. It's a strange thing about that era - lots of famous movies that had to be figured out in post by talented women in the editing suite.
I agree that it is a visually spectacular film. Great compositions throughout. Pretty much any frame you could pause and print as a photo.
Diversity in arts and culture is not a board I would dare to tread in terms of comment. Given the time it was made and the subject matter I think this epic production remains a classic. I think this article by film historian Melanie Williams who studies British cinema with an emphasis on gender covers the issue well.
https://womensfilmandtelevisionhist...ocating-the-women-in-lawrence-of-arabia-1962/
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joeshoup
·Just for fun, here is the link to the 2000 Antiquorum sale of Lawrence's Omega chronograph:
https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/omega-lot-66-8
https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/omega-lot-66-8
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!A chap I was at University with and still know had a grandfather who shared a tent with Ross (as Lawrence was called in the RAF). He doesn't report whether he made a pass at him or not.
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befobe
·A: Brought Superior SS100.
https://www.brough-superior-motorcycles.com/
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SpeedyPhill
·Exact, but the brand is not dead... You can still buy one of these most exclusive motorcycle, manufactured near Toulouse, France!...
https://www.brough-superior-motorcycles.com/
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SpeedyPhill
·Still have to see a clear photo of Thomas Edward Lawrence (TE Chapman) wearing the large 47 mm Omega
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·I read somewhere, a long time ago, that the “fish tail” exhaust pipes weren’t simply decorative but actually produced more power. I think that article said it was a lost art, nobody could figure out the hows and whys of the design. Notice too the “cross-over pipes”, similar to the pipes on a Chevrolet 409 (and almost every performance V8.). The fish tails don’t appear in the photo I posted.
The photo You posted shows TE Lawrence on RK4907, a 1926 Brough Superior SS100, which he kept for barely a year as in December 1926 he was posted to India until January 1929 ! This was his 2nd SS100 but 5th Brough motor-cycle overall since 1922.
About RK4907, TE Lawrence wrote "race story" of riding this Brough SS100 against a low-flying Bristol fB2 fighter biplane from Whitewash Villas aerodrome on the long straight road to Lincoln.
In 1935, TE Lawrence had his fatal accident on GW2275, a 1932 Brough SS100 Springframe JAP with special roll-on centre stand and stainless steel fuel tank. Unfortunately there's only 1 photo of Thomas Edward on GW2275... he already had ordered his 8th Brough motor-cycle to be delivered in August 1935.
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SpeedyPhill
·For those who have asked, here's the most recent photo taken of TE Shaw while wearing the large Omega wrist watch:
More & better resolution via MoonwatchUniverse 😉
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More & better resolution via MoonwatchUniverse 😉
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michael e
·Nothing like resurrecting an old thread. This is the best image I could find from the film used prop. Definitely not a WW1 chronograph! Would be interested to hear peoples thoughts.
I love a mystery like this and I think I have solved it!
The watch T E Lawrence had on in the photo housed the BFG (Baumgartner) 90 caliber movement which was an alarm watch. If you look closely you will see the two apertures on the dial and of course the slide button on the left of the case.
See brands like Sheffield, Basis, simplon, trivera, rocar, Arco, Maxor and a few more probably.
Thanks, Michael
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaI love a mystery like this and I think I have solved it!
The watch T E Lawrence had on in the photo housed the BFG (Baumgartner) 90 caliber movement which was an alarm watch. If you look closely you will see the two apertures on the dial and of course the slide button on the left of the case.
See brands like Sheffield, Basis, simplon, trivera, rocar, Arco, Maxor and a few more probably.
Thanks, Michael
Superb detective work Michael 👍.
I concur, although we may never know the brand, you've nailed the watch.
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Omegafanman
·I love a mystery like this and I think I have solved it!
The watch T E Lawrence had on in the photo housed the BFG (Baumgartner) 90 caliber movement which was an alarm watch. If you look closely you will see the two apertures on the dial and of course the slide button on the left of the case.
See brands like Sheffield, Basis, simplon, trivera, rocar, Arco, Maxor and a few more probably.
Thanks, Michael
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SpeedyPhill
·I love a mystery like this and I think I have solved it!
The watch T E Lawrence had on in the photo housed the BFG (Baumgartner) 90 caliber movement which was an alarm watch. If you look closely you will see the two apertures on the dial and of course the slide button on the left of the case.
See brands like Sheffield, Basis, simplon, trivera, rocar, Arco, Maxor and a few more probably.
Thanks, Michael
Peter O'Toole wrist watch in the 1962 movie " Lawrence of Arabia" !
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sheepdoll
·I love a mystery like this and I think I have solved it!
The watch T E Lawrence had on in the photo housed the BFG (Baumgartner) 90 caliber movement which was an alarm watch. If you look closely you will see the two apertures on the dial and of course the slide button on the left of the case.
See brands like Sheffield, Basis, simplon, trivera, rocar, Arco, Maxor and a few more probably.
Thanks, Michael
Or are we talking about the prop watch for the film?. Which Baumgartner would make sense. Actually Baumgartner made some decent watches. Some even had high jewel counts even if they were pin lever or roskoff. I think the prop watch I lost and the replacement were both BFG.
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michael e
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·Fratellowatches article on the Baumgartner 90
The 1962 David Lean movie " Lawrence of Arabia " was not mentioned...
https://www.fratellowatches.com/tbt-unusual-basis-alarm-watch-bfg-90/
The 1962 David Lean movie " Lawrence of Arabia " was not mentioned...
https://www.fratellowatches.com/tbt-unusual-basis-alarm-watch-bfg-90/
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SpeedyPhill
·So now we know the " 1962 Lawrence of Arabia " Baumgartner 90 wrist watch worn by Peter O'Toole, the challenging question remains on when exactly did Thomas Edward Lawrence acquire his large solid Silver 46 mm large crown Omega military chronograph ?
Several time-period photographs show the large 46 mm big crown Omega watch at Thomas Edward's wrist during his RAF time (Augustus 1922 to February 1935). Remember he had it serviced under his alias " TE Shaw " in April 1933...
☕ When did he get this Omega chronograph - made on September 17, 1912 ?
During World War I the West End watch company (1886 - London) was the first distributor of Swiss watches for British troops stationed in the Middle and Far East as the firm was Geneva-registered in 1917 under the French name " Société des Montres West End SA ".
After a stint at the Geographical Section of the Genral Staff in London (Aug-Sept 1914), TE Lawrence became a 2nd Lt before arriving in Ca¨ro Egypt on December 9, 1914. We know TE travelled to several British Army Intelligence branches in Mesopotamia (Aug 1915) and Greece (April 1916).
We can consider his involvement in the "Arab Revolt" as a period between October 1916- October 1918
Was he wearing the solid Silver 46 mm large crown Omega military chronograph in this 1917 photograph ?
all comments welcome !
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Several time-period photographs show the large 46 mm big crown Omega watch at Thomas Edward's wrist during his RAF time (Augustus 1922 to February 1935). Remember he had it serviced under his alias " TE Shaw " in April 1933...
☕ When did he get this Omega chronograph - made on September 17, 1912 ?
During World War I the West End watch company (1886 - London) was the first distributor of Swiss watches for British troops stationed in the Middle and Far East as the firm was Geneva-registered in 1917 under the French name " Société des Montres West End SA ".
After a stint at the Geographical Section of the Genral Staff in London (Aug-Sept 1914), TE Lawrence became a 2nd Lt before arriving in Ca¨ro Egypt on December 9, 1914. We know TE travelled to several British Army Intelligence branches in Mesopotamia (Aug 1915) and Greece (April 1916).
We can consider his involvement in the "Arab Revolt" as a period between October 1916- October 1918
Was he wearing the solid Silver 46 mm large crown Omega military chronograph in this 1917 photograph ?
all comments welcome !
. (Photo: IWM-TEL Society)
