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  1. TonyD69 Feb 7, 2021

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    New, the full large box and steel strap the seller put the nato on to show me. Bit concerned by the globe omega logo it looks a bit rough
     
  2. amfalconer Feb 8, 2021

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    Looks fine to me, albeit hard to catch with a phone - here's mine!
     
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  3. TonyD69 Feb 8, 2021

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    Thank you, really don’t like buying on line but couldn’t pass up the price. Appreciate the help.
     
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  4. andrewlaeddis32 Feb 9, 2021

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    Thanks for the information. Beautiful time piece. I'm a beginner just learning. I make it simple as if I'm recognizing whether someone is transparent or just a pompous person like my aunt's husband. Always a pleasure for the holidays. He is a replica alright!
     
  5. Jaco166 Feb 11, 2021

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  6. mmaek Feb 11, 2021

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    Hey everyone! First post on the forum. I found this Seamaster Prof earlier on a local classifieds site, but I can’t seem to find the ref number. The “3” in the “30” on the bezel seems off. Here are the pics, what do you think? (Btw the bezel looks blue in one of the pics due to the lighting; it’s actually black.) I would’ve gone and gotten it checked out at an authorized dealer, but the country is in lockdown right now.

    Photos courtesy of the owner on a local classifieds site


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  7. RicWristpassion Feb 11, 2021

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    Hi everyone, I’m a really young newbie in the field and I have just bought an omega seamaster being fascinated from the piece itself and also for the price (I don’t have much money to spend unfortunately). I’m not sure about legitimacy of the watch and I’m quite desperate... I kindly ask you some helps, will be very appreciate in order to open a contestation to the seller if needed, thanks you so much ( pic send by seller)
     
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  8. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 11, 2021

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  9. Scarecrow Boat Burt Macklin, FBI Feb 11, 2021

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    I guarantee you that bezel and dial are blue. I wouldn't touch that piece.
    The reference is 2551.80.00
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    There is a black version that came out later than the tritium version and its reference is 212.30.41.61.01.001. The difference is it is quartz. Notice the absence of "chronometer", red dial text, and black background date wheel.
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  10. mmaek Feb 11, 2021

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    Thanks for replying mate! Well, on second thought, I guess it’s blue (I haven’t seen it in person yet, I just presumed it’s black from the lighting in the pics). I agree with you on everything except that the seller said it’s a 41mm. The 2551.80 is the smaller Seamaster right? The closest ref I’ve found this far is 2531.80.

    The red flags so far are as follows:
    -Lack of red seconds hand
    -Damaged lume on the h/m hands (water damage? Hence the good price)
    -Case and bracelet are way too polished
    -Biggest concern: the font on the “3” in “30” on the bezel doesn’t match pics online. The belly on the 3 seems to be too big, and the number seems to be too thin.

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, thanks!
     
  11. Scarecrow Boat Burt Macklin, FBI Feb 11, 2021

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    You’re right. I pasted the wrong number by accident. The 41mm reference is 2531.80.00.

    As to the red seconds, that paint fades and is common across that model. The seconds hand in your pic looks really faded but there is a slight presence of color still there. However, the lume in that hand looks pretty white, so I’m not sure about that. I also can’t explain the h/m hands but I can say that the tritium could have aged differently and turned a mold color. Yes the watch and bracelet are very polished and shouldn’t be. Like I said, I wouldn’t touch that one.
     
  12. Jaco166 Feb 11, 2021

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    Thx mate, Do you have a idea of the price of these watches? No box of papers. Already a Big thx for the reply
     
  13. RicWristpassion Feb 12, 2021

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    Please does anyone know if everything is ok with this? Especially w valve position, bezel, 1538 Movement and serial number
     
  14. vitriol Feb 12, 2021

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    Colour does not really matter, this is fake/aftermarket insert anyway.

    Those are valid points but not necessary red flags in respect of the authenticity.

    Case and bracelet are way too overpolished and it won't be easy neither cheap to restore them to Omega finishing.

    The watch has a tritium dial and looks like tritium hands too (probably). It is known that Diver 300m hands age in the different way than the dial, but such huge difference I have not seen yet. I guess thos hands and bezel insert have been retrofitted to the watch.
    Personally, I wouldn't be paying for this watch anyything more that $650.
    During the standard service Omega may restore case and brac to a factory finishing, new hands also should be included in the standard fee, but new bezel+insert have to be paid as extra out of your pocket.
     
  15. vitriol Feb 12, 2021

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    Yes, it is genuine 2561.80.00, 36mm watch.
     
  16. RicWristpassion Feb 12, 2021

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    Thanks you so so much!!!! I paid 730 shipped, do you think is a fair deal?
     
  17. vitriol Feb 12, 2021

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    If that was in US dollars I think you did a nice deal.
     
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  18. reverbtime Feb 12, 2021

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    Does this Seamaster Chrono look legit? They are asking $2,400 for it.
     
  19. RicWristpassion Feb 12, 2021

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    Thanks you very appreciate, last questions: is the date number not perfectly aligned right? Is this a tritium dial or a luminova one?
     
  20. vitriol Feb 13, 2021

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    Yes, it has super-luminova.

    Date disc looks aligned on the first photo (5:13 or 17:13 time), the second photo shows the time 12:31 or 00:31.
    Cal.1538 does not have a quick-set date function, it takes them a few hours to slowly flip the date disc somewhere after a midnight.
    I would suggest to check the alignment somewhere at 6 o'clock time, to be sure you are outside the >date-change window<.
     
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