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Is this watch real or fake thread - aka Fake Busters!!

  1. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jun 8, 2020

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  2. Warmond Jun 8, 2020

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    I did a quick research and I have found the following:
    On the basis of the watch serial number (37276187), the year of production was 1978: https://est1897.co.uk/jewellery-watch-guides/omega-serial-numbers-how-old-is-your-omega-watch
    The reference number in the case back is 14763-61 and the caliber is 1012. However, the other four or five Seamaster with the same reference number that I found on the Internet date from the early 60s and they have a calibre 562. I wonder whether the number 61 after the hyphen in the reference number indicates they year of creation of the model in question.
    On the basis of this limited information, I doubt a watch produced in 1978 will use the case back of a 1961 model. I believe you are right the case back does not belong to that model. Thanks again for your input.
     
  3. timecube Jun 8, 2020

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    Where do you get 37276187?
     
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  4. Warmond Jun 8, 2020

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    The seller reported that serial number in the announcement and I took it for granted. You are right, the serial number is actually different. Another lesson learned: don't take all the info provided by the seller for granted; there may be mistakes.
    Thanks.
    Having noted the case back does not belong to this model, I lost interest in this watch anyway...
     
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  5. saloni1 Jun 11, 2020

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    Hello everyone.
    I would like to ask you about this watch. I want to buy it on ebay, but I'm not sure if it's original. Could you please help me to verify it?
    It seems ok to me, but I have no experiences with that. There is one thing which seems to me fake - the relief Grand Prix. I compared it with another ones in the internet, and it seems to me different. What do you thing?
    It should be a gift for my father (this month) and I don't want to make such a mistake buying a fake Omegas.
    Thank you in advance for your reply.

    Some basic information:
    Dial: Roman
    Indicator: 12 Hours
    Material: silver 0.800
    Identity: "1892902" / Swiss and German Silver marks / "OMEGA" /
    Medals (Paris 1900)
    Monogram / cartridge: no / yes (empty)
    Number of Units: 1
    Brand: OMEGA, Schweiz
    Elevator: Manual
    Year of Manufacture: 1900-1919
    EAN: Not applicable
    Price: EUR 236.25
     
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  6. rsudhakar Jun 15, 2020

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    Inquiring about this used watch that I have the option to buy.

    This was being sold as an AS-IS piece, and I thought that it would be a deal to pay to have it professionally repaired/restored. The watch currently is not functioning, significant wear can be seen, and the signed crown is removed (but included)

    They claim it is a 2006 Omega Speedmaster Olympic Special Edition - made for the 2006 Torino Winter Olympics

    Unfortunately, upon closer inspection, the dial reads Seamaster, but the bracelet and caseback read Speedmaster (along with the classic speedmaster tachymeter) and I cant seem to find this dial, or a similar speedmaster anywhere on the internet when I search for the 2006 limited edition omegas that were released.

    See below for the pictures of the watch.

    https://imgur.com/a/ksKs7gd

    Is this simply a frankenstein? or a fake? Is it worth purchasing and trying to restore?


    Thanks

    RS
     
  7. Meme-Dweller Jun 15, 2020

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    It's a fake. It's not even a chronograph. Like a weird date setup on the subdials.
     
  8. larryganz The cable guy Jun 18, 2020

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    This one is a blatant FAKE. And, the type of bracelet clasp used is the most common to be used in fakes as well. Lastly, it's best to have pics here in the thread, since the links can break in the future.

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  9. sonicosa Jun 18, 2020

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    Took me a moment to figure out what the subdial at 9 is supposed to measure. I was like "Seven, what the heck is... ohhhh."
     
  10. Lostpuppy116 Jun 18, 2020

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    So I feel a little sheepish asking, but what does the "seven" measure? I am at a loss.
     
  11. sonicosa Jun 18, 2020

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    Days of the week, I believe.
     
  12. Lostpuppy116 Jun 18, 2020

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    ::facepalm1:: Of course. That makes perfect sense now.
     
  13. Wuza72 Jun 21, 2020

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    For sale at a local marketplace and reportet !

    Have a look at the chronometer function :)

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  14. DaveK Yoda of Yodelers Jun 21, 2020

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  15. larryganz The cable guy Jun 22, 2020

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    Ahhh, the famous "Space Missons" case back again, and on a "Seamaster" to boot!
     
  16. vitriol Jun 22, 2020

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    Sooo.. Speedy-aficionados, it is real non-production watch?
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Speedmaster-Professional-Moon-watch-Snoopy-/174320479393Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network
    copying ebay description:

    "Omega made display watches for shows and exhibitions that were not intended for public use. They were built with basic ETA movements and attempted to only be a cosmetic example of the soon to be released watch. These watches were numbered 0000/5441 (5441 is the number of Snoopy watches manufactured). Omega did this for various releases or editions. I attached a picture of the sterling silver snoopy which is numbered 0000/1970 (this too is a display watch). Note that these display watches do not have a serial number on the case as do the “real” watches.

    Please note the “Snoopy 2004” engraving on the clasp.

    This particular watch is a Snoopy Award as well as a tribute to Apollo 10 as it list the astronauts of that mission on both the front and the back.

    If you think you are a purist and have negative comments text your mother, not me. A true Omega aficionado will know or have the sense to find out about these rare pieces."



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  17. Meme-Dweller Jun 22, 2020

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  18. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jun 22, 2020

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    So, Omega did certainly make watches for display only - these are sometimes referred to as carnet watches. They sometimes had movements, and sometimes not. If you search on the word "carnet" here you will find these discussed in other threads.

    So there is a kernel of truth in the description, however this is not one of those. First off he talks about them using ETA movements, and although I'm not quite sure what the movement is in this watch, it looks nothing like any ETA movement I recall seeing. The quality of the parts is completely substandard for the entire thing.

    The last sentence tells you pretty much all you need to know - the seller knows it's a fake and doesn't want to hear any arguments to that effect. Should be reported IMO...

    Cheers, Al
     
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  19. vitriol Jun 22, 2020

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    Yes the last sentence made me chuckle;)
     
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  20. matthijs Jun 27, 2020

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    Hello everyone,

    I am new here and looking to join the ranks of 'Omega owners'. I found this Speedmaster, which I think is real. Only point of concern I have is that the seller says it has never been polished, since it has been purchased in 1998. Do you have anything to say about this? And maybe also of the genuinity of this piece? Thanks in advance! Schermafbeelding 2020-06-27 om 17.12.38.png Schermafbeelding 2020-06-27 om 17.11.52.png Schermafbeelding 2020-06-27 om 17.10.16.png Schermafbeelding 2020-06-27 om 17.10.07.png
     
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