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Is this watch real or fake thread - aka Fake Busters!!

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I've seen other threads where people report it on ebay. Where does one stand with this? Yes I'm sure it's fake as well, but don't you have to have some proof? Otherwise the whole process could decend into chaos. What does Ebay do with the report. (The watch is bidding at £680! - someone is going to be disappointed)
 
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Good day,

I just want to asked if this watch is a original or fake piece?

Thanks

The watch looks real to me, but I'm not sure that the 1450 (which looks real) is the right bracelet for a watch model 3592.50 (1989-1995) based on the Omega website, which shows a newer bracelet on this watch (a 1479). https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-speedmaster-de-luxe-3592-50-00

However, another google search came up with the 1450 for this watch, but then Christies had a 1995 for auction with the newer 1479 bracelet, just like on the Omega website..

Okay, found this https://forums.watchuseek.com/f20/o...-moon-watch-3592-50-a-380222.html#post2844899 Where Father John says the more desirable 1450 bracelet came on early models.
 
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Is this watch considered as vintage watch?

If it's from the 1980's with the older 1450 bracelet some people might call it "modern vintage", being that it's over 30 years old. It does have an older version of the movement inside, which makes it more desirable and vintage in my eyes.

It will lose value if you replace the original worn (patina'd) hands or other parts with newer service parts, so when it needs to be cleaned and lubricated then an independent watchmaker with a good reputation for vintage movements should be used. Omega will replace worn parts with new service parts, making the watch a hybrid of vintage and modern, and less valuable.
 
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Hey guys, I just inherited this watch and I was hoping you could tell me a little more about it, and if you think it’s authentic. No papers or service history. Thanks!


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Dsawyer16 Dsawyer16
Hey guys, I just inherited this watch and I was hoping you could tell me a little more about it, and if you think it’s authentic. No papers or service history. Thanks!


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I looks genuine to me. From what I can tell, It's got the older bracelet and older bezel from a 1970's watch, with a newer dial and hands that Omega likely replaced during a service at some point. The best way to date and value the watch is to have a watchmaker open it, check the movement version and serial number, and see if it needs to be serviced (clean, lubed, and adjusted).

My Omega Speedmaster Pro model 145.022-74 that was produced in October 1976 has the same bracelet and bezel as yours, while my 2013 Speedmaster Pro 3570.50 has a similar dial and hands to yours.

I always like to recommend keeping an inherited watch, for sentimental reasons. If I am correct about the above, the value was hurt with the newer dial and hands, but it would be more functional for someone who'd rather be able to tell the time in the dark and not have the original tritium dial and hands that would have aged with a patina and stopped glowing.
 
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Thank you! I’m having a hard time finding a watchmaker in my area, is there any type for forum/website where I can locate one? I live in upstate NY, near Lake George. Also, I don’t plan on selling ever, just would like to know some history.
 
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Hi, new to the forum. I have been looking to get a seamaster, and came across a mid size one (I don't have particularly small wrists just prefer the size, my only other watch currently being a Rolex datejust- tried on full size watches and they just felt enormous! Anyway...) on eBay I liked the look of.

BUT I am a little doubtful of its authenticity. The seller says that he has just had it serviced by an omega authorised centre with a 2 year guarantee, and has a sort of receipt pictured showing that. But what really concerns me is that he purports the watch to be an early 2000's omega seamaster mid size with blue wavy dial and bezel and YET for some reason it doesn't have skeleton hands, but has broad hands like the peter Blake models (which is partially what drew me to his watch because I love the look of the 2252.50 and 2254.50 but the price on them just keeps going up)

My immediate reaction is it must be a fake. He hasn't under valued or over valued the watch, it's what I would expect to pay for a mid size omega in this condition, but the hands thing still make me think it's fake. What do you guys think? I know hands can be changed but not sure why you would swap out skeleton hands with sword hands. Surely that just devalues the watch. Have asked the seller about it and he just insists all is fine?!?

Any help appreciated.
 
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
Looks good to me. Serial numbers would not have been engraved on the lugs at that time.
Yes looks good. Nice piece
 
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arghjayem arghjayem
, but the hands thing still make me think it's fake.
Someone changed the hands because they liked the look. You're over thinking things.
 
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JimF315 JimF315
Yes looks good. Nice piece
Might want to check dates 😉 2 year old post.
 
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arghjayem arghjayem
Hi, new to the forum. I have been looking to get a seamaster, and came across a mid size one (I don't have particularly small wrists just prefer the size, my only other watch currently being a Rolex datejust- tried on full size watches and they just felt enormous! Anyway...) on eBay I liked the look of.

BUT I am a little doubtful of its authenticity. The seller says that he has just had it serviced by an omega authorised centre with a 2 year guarantee, and has a sort of receipt pictured showing that. But what really concerns me is that he purports the watch to be an early 2000's omega seamaster mid size with blue wavy dial and bezel and YET for some reason it doesn't have skeleton hands, but has broad hands like the peter Blake models (which is partially what drew me to his watch because I love the look of the 2252.50 and 2254.50 but the price on them just keeps going up)

My immediate reaction is it must be a fake. He hasn't under valued or over valued the watch, it's what I would expect to pay for a mid size omega in this condition, but the hands thing still make me think it's fake. What do you guys think? I know hands can be changed but not sure why you would swap out skeleton hands with sword hands. Surely that just devalues the watch. Have asked the seller about it and he just insists all is fine?!?

Any help appreciated.

The case and He valve location, bezel, dial, and bracelet look correct to me, while the hands are wrong (for a 2254). To me that would reduce the value a bit, so why he says it's fine and he isn't using that as an excuse for a low price, well I don't know.

It's also more likely a mid-late 90's model, based on the patina of the dial. If the serial number is in the 55-58 million range that would support my age guess.
 
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
Might want to check dates 😉 2 year old post.

True, I'm new and getting use to the layout. I will
 
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dennisthemenace dennisthemenace
Someone changed the hands because they liked the look. You're over thinking things.
Yeah I asked him if he had the hands changed or if he bought it with those hands already on.... the reply he gave me "if you like it buy it, if not blah, blah blah" which again only raised my concern of it being fake. Or maybe the seller is just a d**k?
 
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arghjayem arghjayem
Yeah I asked him if he had the hands changed or if he bought it with those hands already on.... the reply he gave me "if you like it buy it, if not blah, blah blah" which again only raised my concern of it being fake. Or maybe the seller is just a d**k?

Probably the latter. Some good advice often heard on this forum is "buy the seller, not the watch".
 
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Hello,

I am new here and looking to buy my first Omega.

I have found the style I like, and found a suitable watch for sale. The seller has all the boxes and the original receipt, however the guarantee card serial number and that on the watch don't match... Is this normal or is something fishy going on?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Nick.

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