Is this watch real or fake thread - aka Fake Busters!!

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Hey everyone. I posted on the vintage Omega discussion page but I believe this may be more appropriate. I found this Seamaster 300 for sale on a local group and I want to check its authenticity before I go any further with it. I’ve done some research but I’m still not sure I trust my own ability to determine whether or not it’s authentic so hopefully you guys can help!


Appears to be genuine. A movement photo would confirm everything is kosher
 
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Neither. It's cal 1120.

I believe the OP was referring to the 212.30.41.20.01.003 which is 2500D. The electric blue was a different fellow…
 
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Thanks for the insight. Does this model use 2500c or 2500d variant, do you have any idea?

Aesthetical differences are not so important for me, between the new variants of smp. I can live without the wave details on the dial and date being on the right side looks better for me. I don't know if they have any more aesthetic differences. Having a reliable movement, however, is important to me.

You’re very welcome.

Appears to be 2500D. Supposedly more reliable than 2500C though I cannot offer a comparison between it and an 8800 in terms of reliability.

If reliability is ultimately your most important criteria, you may want to also consider a sword hand SMP (2254.50 et. al.) powered by cal. 1120. Simpler, serviceable, and reliable.
 
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I believe the OP was referring to the 212.30.41.20.01.003 which is 2500D. The electric blue was a different fellow…
I need to stop coming here after drinking!
 
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You’re very welcome.

Appears to be 2500D. Supposedly more reliable than 2500C though I cannot offer a comparison between it and an 8800 in terms of reliability.

If reliability is ultimately your most important criteria, you may want to also consider a sword hand SMP (2254.50 et. al.) powered by cal. 1120. Simpler, serviceable, and reliable.

That's a really nice caliber but unfortunately that one doesn't appeal me aesthetically.
 
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Good morning, inherited this ‘Omega’ Seamaster coaxial from a friend that passed. Nice looking watch, keeps reasonable time, date complication occasionally needs reminding to change, albeit the screw down crown thread has gone and will want replacing, however, I’m 99% that this is a knock off, although they would have had the capital for a genuine one which accounts the 1% doubt.

Reasons I think it’s a fake;
The dial.
I can’t find a 250X.XX with a black face and white date indicator.
The omega symbol and logo looks too large.
I’m not sure that the hour marks are right.
Second hand looks too long.

The case.
The quality of the case isn’t great, there’s tooling marks where the lugs fit.
It has a solid back with engraving that doesn’t match anything I can find.
The solid back has 6 opening engagement points not 5.

The strap.
Doesn’t match the watch age and is stamped 455B and I can’t find an image of a genuine equivalent.

The inner clasp isn’t stamped/ engraved like my other omegas.

To be honest I’m only wearing it as my Dynamic recently encountered a feline related gravity based failure and needs repair, however as the ‘seamaster’ needs a replacement crown I thought I’d check on here before I sent it off to get laughed at.




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Good morning, inherited this ‘Omega’ Seamaster coaxial from a friend that passed. Nice looking watch, keeps reasonable time, date complication occasionally needs reminding to change, albeit the screw down crown thread has gone and will want replacing, however, I’m 99% that this is a knock off, although they would have had the capital for a genuine one which accounts the 1% doubt.

Reasons I think it’s a fake;
The dial.
I can’t find a 250X.XX with a black face and white date indicator.
The omega symbol and logo looks too large.
I’m not sure that the hour marks are right.
Second hand looks too long.

The case.
The quality of the case isn’t great, there’s tooling marks where the lugs fit.
It has a solid back with engraving that doesn’t match anything I can find.
The solid back has 6 opening engagement points not 5.

The strap.
Doesn’t match the watch age and is stamped 455B and I can’t find an image of a genuine equivalent.

The inner clasp isn’t stamped/ engraved like my other omegas.

To be honest I’m only wearing it as my Dynamic recently encountered a feline related gravity based failure and needs repair, however as the ‘seamaster’ needs a replacement crown I thought I’d check on here before I sent it off to get laughed at.




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Most obvious on the dial that screams fake to me is the applied metal Omega text.
 
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encountered a feline related gravity based failure
🤣

Got a cat/cats?
Store your watches on the floor.

Oh, and the "Seamaster" is an awful counterfeit.
 
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Good evening everyone. I'm interested in this used Omega Planet Ocean (ref: 215.30.44.21.01.001) going on an auction site. I'd greatly appreciate any expert opinions or additional observations. Thanks in advance for helping me ensure I'm making a sound purchase decision!

Here are my initial observations:

- Dial and Logo: The dial text and applied Omega logo appear crisp and correctly positioned, aligning with genuine examples I've seen. The markers and hands seem correct for this model.
- Bezel: Ceramic bezel insert numerals and indices seem consistent with genuine examples. The finish and depth of engraving look good.
- Helium Escape Valve: Positioning and shape look accurate, as does the crown detail.
- Caseback: Engravings and serial number appear present, but obscured in the photograph, preventing me from looking it up.
- Movement: The photos provided show the Co-Axial movement through the exhibition caseback. The text 'Omega Master Co-Axial 8900' looks a tiny bit odd to me, but it could be the angle and lighting. Otherwise, it appears genuine.
- Bracelet and Clasp: The bracelet appears consistent with authentic Planet Oceans I've handled previously, with accurate clasp details and engraving quality.

Thank you again for any insight you can provide. I really appreciate it.

 
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Good evening everyone. I'm interested in this used Omega Planet Ocean (ref: 215.30.44.21.01.001) going on an auction site. I'd greatly appreciate any expert opinions or additional observations. Thanks in advance for helping me ensure I'm making a sound purchase decision!

Here are my initial observations:

- Dial and Logo: The dial text and applied Omega logo appear crisp and correctly positioned, aligning with genuine examples I've seen. The markers and hands seem correct for this model.
- Bezel: Ceramic bezel insert numerals and indices seem consistent with genuine examples. The finish and depth of engraving look good.
- Helium Escape Valve: Positioning and shape look accurate, as does the crown detail.
- Caseback: Engravings and serial number appear present, but obscured in the photograph, preventing me from looking it up.
- Movement: The photos provided show the Co-Axial movement through the exhibition caseback. The text 'Omega Master Co-Axial 8900' looks a tiny bit odd to me, but it could be the angle and lighting. Otherwise, it appears genuine.
- Bracelet and Clasp: The bracelet appears consistent with authentic Planet Oceans I've handled previously, with accurate clasp details and engraving quality.

Thank you again for any insight you can provide. I really appreciate it.

It's genuine but the condition is not that great; it's heavily worn. I would be more concerned if that was a scratch on the ceramic bezel insert between 50 & 55 or if the seller was too lazy to wipe it down before taking photos. Regardless, I would personally pay a little more for one in better condition... it's not a rare watch.
 
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It's genuine but the condition is not that great; it's heavily worn. I would be more concerned if that was a scratch on the ceramic bezel insert between 50 & 55 or if the seller was too lazy to wipe it down before taking photos. Regardless, I would personally pay a little more for one in better condition... it's not a rare watch.
Thank you. I appreciate the insight. I'm bidding pretty low on this one - factoring in a full service for it. Certainly not paying top dollar considering its condition. Again, thank you!
 
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Hi Guys, any reason to think this one is fake?
Comes from a reputable dealer on Chrono24, chronometer certificate verified through omega website.
Thanks a lot!

 
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I don't see anything that looks off. The serial number appears to match wheat the reference is supposed to be according to Omega...

Serial number: 87776825
Article ref: 13033392103001
Version of movement: 8900A
 
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Hi! Got this as a work bonus - Can you tell if it is authentic? All the serial numbers match the papers.
 
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Good morning, inherited this ‘Omega’ Seamaster coaxial from a friend that passed. Nice looking watch, keeps reasonable time, date complication occasionally needs reminding to change, albeit the screw down crown thread has gone and will want replacing, however, I’m 99% that this is a knock off, although they would have had the capital for a genuine one which accounts the 1% doubt.

Reasons I think it’s a fake;
The dial.
I can’t find a 250X.XX with a black face and white date indicator.
The omega symbol and logo looks too large.
I’m not sure that the hour marks are right.
Second hand looks too long.

The case.
The quality of the case isn’t great, there’s tooling marks where the lugs fit.
It has a solid back with engraving that doesn’t match anything I can find.
The solid back has 6 opening engagement points not 5.

The strap.
Doesn’t match the watch age and is stamped 455B and I can’t find an image of a genuine equivalent.

The inner clasp isn’t stamped/ engraved like my other omegas.

To be honest I’m only wearing it as my Dynamic recently encountered a feline related gravity based failure and needs repair, however as the ‘seamaster’ needs a replacement crown I thought I’d check on here before I sent it off to get laughed at.




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The "OMEGA" lettering on the dial and the applied logo (oof) are completely wack. The caseback and logo are wrong. The damage around the lugs, to the case, to the bracelet, does not look the way it should for an aged real watch, but fakes often age this way.

That said, I'm sorry for your loss.
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Hi! Got this as a work bonus - Can you tell if it is authentic?
Is your employer so untrustworthy that you feel the need to ask? If the answer is yes, you might want to look for another employer maybe?

Anyway, I don't see anything that would lead me to think it's not real. Serial number checks out:

Serial number: 88439035
Article ref: 31020425002001
Version of movement: 3861A
 
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It's genuine but the condition is not that great; it's heavily worn. I would be more concerned if that was a scratch on the ceramic bezel insert between 50 & 55 or if the seller was too lazy to wipe it down before taking photos. Regardless, I would personally pay a little more for one in better condition... it's not a rare watch.

It's visible in all the pictures with different degrees of reflectivity, which is a lot more indicative of a scuff or scratch to the ceramic surface. That would be one eye-catching issue and expensive fix.
 
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Good morning, inherited this ‘Omega’ Seamaster coaxial from a friend that passed. Nice looking watch, keeps reasonable time, date complication occasionally needs reminding to change, albeit the screw down crown thread has gone and will want replacing, however, I’m 99% that this is a knock off, although they would have had the capital for a genuine one which accounts the 1% doubt.

Reasons I think it’s a fake;
The dial.
I can’t find a 250X.XX with a black face and white date indicator.
The omega symbol and logo looks too large.
I’m not sure that the hour marks are right.
Second hand looks too long.

The case.
The quality of the case isn’t great, there’s tooling marks where the lugs fit.
It has a solid back with engraving that doesn’t match anything I can find.
The solid back has 6 opening engagement points not 5.

The strap.
Doesn’t match the watch age and is stamped 455B and I can’t find an image of a genuine equivalent.

The inner clasp isn’t stamped/ engraved like my other omegas.

To be honest I’m only wearing it as my Dynamic recently encountered a feline related gravity based failure and needs repair, however as the ‘seamaster’ needs a replacement crown I thought I’d check on here before I sent it off to get laughed at.




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"feline related gravity based failure" ROFL with that one.
 
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Hi! Got this as a work bonus - Can you tell if it is authentic? All the serial numbers match the papers.

Is your employer hiring? Asking for a friend 😁