Is this Pie Pan 168.006 worth it ?

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Unless your seller is a watchmaker or very adept at changing crowns you wouldn’t want him carrying out a quick crown change as you risk damage to the watch.

He told me he is a watchmaker himself. I don't know if it's something that easy to do though ... We're gonna be in an office, not his workplace I guess

Do you think that the dials are very likely to present a different color as shown in the pictures ?
 
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Unless your seller is a watchmaker or very adept at changing crowns you wouldn’t want him carrying out a quick crown change as you risk damage to the watch.

He told me he is a watchmaker himself. I don't know if it's something that easy to do though ... We're gonna be in an office, which his not his workplace I guess

Do you think that the dials are very likely to present a different color in reality, as shown in the pictures ?
 
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I think you will have to hold the watches in hand to see if they are materially different dials.
 
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FWIW, since they are otherwise the same cases/movements/etc, I wouldn't change just the crown, I'd do a crown + stem swap. THAT should take only a few minutes and is trivial for anyone who does anything resembling watchmaking.
 
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So I asked him about the crowns. He told me he would not be able to change the crowns and that I should consider the watches as they are.

How bad do you think it is to have the non-waterproof crown?
I live in France and don't intend to go to the jungle with the watch, but I want it to be durable + I will already have an incorrect crown, it would at least have been nice that the "incorrect" crown is a bit "correct"

From what I see I might like better the dial of less expansive + it has the right crown, so maybe I would finally go for this one.

As you said I will chose when I have the watches in hands but it might influence me if it's important to have the waterproof crown (on a durability and collection level)
 
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It sounds to me like you still have a lot of doubts and questions and maybe you need to study and learn more before buying. The members have given you an extraordinary amount of free information and feedback but they can’t buy the watch for you.
 
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It sounds to me like you still have a lot of doubts and questions and maybe you need to study and learn more before buying. The members have given you an extraordinary amount of free information and feedback but they can’t buy the watch for you.

I get what you're saying since I already asked a lot of questions, and you're absolutely right when you say that I have to buy the watch myself.

I'm just trying to make the right decision with the little knowledge in watches I have (which I won't be really able to improve in a 2 day backpacking trip!) but I do have desired this watch for quite a long time

And I'm very thankful for the useful informations I got there 😀
 
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This is a common model and you can buy it anywhere The examples you are finding are not unique or special or especially cheap.

Take your time and wait until you know enough to be comfortable with a decision. Buying a collectible vintage watch is not like going to the store and buying luggage. Especially if you are price sensitive
 
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This is a common model and you can buy it anywhere The examples you are finding are not unique or special or especially cheap.

Take your time and wait until you know enough to be comfortable with a decision.

I understand
They are pretty cheap though for where I live... I wouldn't be able to find a pie pan this quality at 1600-1800 € in France with a professional seller
 
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Don’t forget you will pay VAT as well when you enter the EU.

Is it 20%?
 
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Don’t forget you will pay VAT as well when you enter the EU.

Is it 20%?
Not if it is on his wrist he won’t.
 
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I too think you are over thinking this @Takeo.
Yes, a replacement crown knocks the value slightly.
Yes, a waterproof crown is better than a non-waterproof crown.
However, painted indices knock the value much more than either of these things and you seem to be comfortable with that.

Go see the watches, buy the best one you can afford (forget the crowns!) as they are both good looking watches.

My advice (for the final time) buy the one with the best case and best dial.
 
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Hey guys!

I met the seller yesterday and bought a watch! I thought I would go for the cheaper one, since it was in kind of the same condition as the one I had last year and I was happy with it, but I changed my mind when I saw the sharp lugs on the other one! It really adds to the watch.

So I went with the more expensive one, and of course I took a picture for you in a Japanese setting !

I'm really happy with the watch, thanks again for the help!

I still have a question though, I noticed today that the lower lugs were inequal. You can see that one of the "angle" of the right lug goes higher that the left one. Is everything good ? Misconception or polishing ?(though it's kinda surprising since the lugs don't look polished)

You can see it as well on the seller's pictures, which I hadn't noticed before.

 
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Looks like that has had a significant polish job. They removed quite a bit of material from that 7 oclock lug, probably to fix up some sort if ding? They at least did a reasonable job of keeping the facets though.

I suspect this means someone did a pretty big polish job on this. While 'poor' polishing is what we usually complain about (because it ruins facets/angles), proper use of jigs and sanding blocks/etc, can remove material without losing facets, and you get something like this.
 
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Congratulations on your new watch.
Enjoy!
 
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Looks like that has had a significant polish job. They removed quite a bit of material from that 7 oclock lug, probably to fix up some sort if ding? They at least did a reasonable job of keeping the facets though.

I suspect this means someone did a pretty big polish job on this. While 'poor' polishing is what we usually complain about (because it ruins facets/angles), proper use of jigs and sanding blocks/etc, can remove material without losing facets, and you get something like this.

Thanks for your reply! The watch is still beautiful and sharp, which is great, but I feel a bit confused about not noticing this before.

In terms of value, which is worse, having a well-polished watch like this one but with asymmetrical lugs, or one with polished non-sharp lugs?
 
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Thanks for your reply! The watch is still beautiful and sharp, which is great, but I feel a bit confused about not noticing this before.

In terms of value, which is worse, having a well-polished watch like this one but with asymmetrical lugs, or one with polished non-sharp lugs?
IMO, the different lug sizes is way less noticable and would greatly remove my enjoyment/love of it way less than one that lost its sharp lugs particularly on this model.
 
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IMO, the different lug sizes is way less noticable and would greatly remove my enjoyment/love of it way less than one that lost its sharp lugs particularly on this model.

Yes absolutely, I mean I did go for the sharp lugs watch not noticing the assymetry, whereas the other one was way less exciting to me