Is this normal? Chrono minute hand ticks early

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reemas

·Apr 19, 2021

The minute hand ticks just under 1 sec soon. Technically I can stop it and what should be 59 sec would appear as 1 min and 59 sec.

My watch is 14 days old - tomorrow is my last day to return but I’m not sure it’ll pass the return policy. What should I do? Would hate to send a new watch off to service already. Anyone else have this issue?

Here’s the video link:
https://share.icloud.com/photos/05RbQQbk--4iMzUu1TFyyRA3Q#Marina_del_Rey

I’ve attached the 3 frames of the video showing it tick early.

 

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abgul

·Apr 19, 2021

I think this is within tolerance and normal behaviour.

 

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fendushi

·Apr 19, 2021

Normal behavior.

Awesome Speedy! Congrats!

 

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reemas

·Apr 19, 2021

Thanks. I’ve seen videos on YouTube where it’s precise so curious what others experiences are?

 

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fendushi

·Apr 20, 2021

R reemas

Thanks. I’ve seen videos on YouTube where it’s precise so curious what others experiences are?

Which video?

I have noticed even the new Metas 3861 movement does this. Watch the 2021 Speedmaster review by Watchbox Reviews channel and scroll to 4:45.

 

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reemas

·Apr 20, 2021

Saw the video you referenced, seems a bit better. Here's one I saw that seems precise:

(43:31 timestamp link above)

 

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Bp1000

·Apr 20, 2021

Does this on a few of mine too.

The 3861 seems more precise. At least on my A11

 

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rob#1

·Apr 20, 2021

There have been many threads about this. It’s probably within tolerances but it can be adjusted so it clicks over once the minute hand hits exactly 12. Mine clicks over about half a second early - when it’s in for service I’ll get it fixed but I can live with it for now 🙄

 

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rob#1

·Apr 20, 2021

rob#1

There have been many threads about this. It’s probably within tolerances but it can be adjusted so it clicks over once the minute hand hits exactly 12. Mine clicks over about half a second early - when it’s in for service I’ll get it fixed but I can live with it for now 🙄

Though I’m talking about an 1861 - I’m not sure how different the chrono mechanism is on the new version, though I’d imagine it’s fairly similar

 

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Archer

·Apr 20, 2021·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

That's about as far off as I've seen one. Not acceptable IMO and I've adjusted them for far less...

 

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reemas

·Apr 20, 2021

Thanks all. This is the 3861 that I just got direct from Omega.

 

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Evitzee

·Apr 20, 2021

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Thanks all. This is the 3861 that I just got direct from Omega.

So now you have to decide to either live with it or send it off to Omega for an internal intervention. Personally, I don't worry about things like this, I've had dozens of chronographs over the years and I can't remember ever staring down the minute hand change in relation to the second hand. As long as the hands properly count the elapsed time it's all copacetic for me. But everyone's tolerance is different.

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scubafan

·Apr 20, 2021

A abgul

I think this is within tolerance and normal behaviour.

fendushi

Normal behavior.

Awesome Speedy! Congrats!

Both wrong and as a result, a poor advice for the OP. Always surprise me when people make assertions about things they ignore.

 

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reemas

·Apr 20, 2021

Today’s the last day of my return window but the watch may not pass the Omega return policy (I’m not sure). Planning to call them today and see what they can do about it. Really don’t want to have it serviced already and would prefer an exchange or refund. Anyone have experience with this or advice?

 

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Evitzee

·Apr 20, 2021

R reemas

Today’s the last day of my return window but the watch may not pass the Omega return policy (I’m not sure). Planning to call them today and see what they can do about it. Really don’t want to have it serviced already and would prefer an exchange or refund. Anyone have experience with this or advice?

Is the return policy "no questions asked"? Or only if watch is defective? You'll have to work it out with them. Their first reaction will be to send it off for adjustment, so be prepared to argue for replacement or refund if that is what you want. If refund, then what?

 

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Bp1000

·Apr 20, 2021

scubafan

Both wrong and as a result, a poor advice for the OP. Always surprise me when people make assertions about things they ignore.

Really?

What is the tolerance? I have several that all seem to start at 59 seconds and complete by 59.5 and 59.8 seconds. They are all early.

His is completing by 59.2 seconds. It doesn't indicate there is anything wrong with the movement, it just needs adjusting. Personally it would not bother me.

Edit// that's incorrect.

His is not completing at 59.2 seconds. The hash marks on the new 3861 speedmasters are different to the 1861 speedmasters. Therefore the unit of time measurement is different. His is completing a little later than I thought.

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reemas

·Apr 20, 2021

BP1000, thanks for the notes. Are yours 3861 calibers?

 

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Bp1000

·Apr 20, 2021

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BP1000, thanks for the notes. Are yours 3861 calibers?

No, 4 of them are 1861, a couple are 3201 and 3203 and the most accurate, probably by chance is 3861.

 

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Archer

·Apr 20, 2021·Omega Qualified Watchmaker

Bp1000

What is the tolerance?

Well, there is no "tolerance" really...this is what Omega states in the technical documentation:

"After fitting the hands, check that the minute recorder hand jumps when the chronograph hand passes over 12 o’clock."

So no real range is stated. I've asked for clarification on this in the past, and none came.

Note that the design of the chronograph wheel, which is where the adjustment is made, is the same between the 861/1861/3861, so they all can be adjusted. The 321 can also, but the design is slightly different.

Cheers, Al

 

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Evitzee

·Apr 20, 2021

I just checked three of my 1861 Speedmasters that have not been touched since leaving the factory, the minute counter finished clicking onto the next mark when the second hand was between 59.2 and 59.6 seconds. A new 1861 that was modified by Adam Lewis last year (new dial and hands) clicked at 59.8 seconds. An Apollo 11 3861 clicked over at 59.6 seconds. A recently overhauled 861 by Nesbit's in Seattle clicked over at +0.2 seconds. I've never checked them before and don't plan to do it again, they are all fine in my book, they work as they should in real life. You can obsess about these things, but in this case I just don't think OP's watch has a significant issue. But people's tolerance for things like this varies with the length of time collecting. Newbies tend to expect perfection in a $6k watch, those collecting for decades realize these things aren't perfect, especially in a semi-mass produced product like an Omega movement.

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