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·Dear gurus,
Sorry to bother you with this long post. I recently purchase an Omega Speedmaster 145.014 racing dial from a Japanese store on Chrono24 (they have 5/5 rating from >200 purchases). The watch runs accurately with 5s daily difference. Chronograph functions very well. The dial has a very nice condition.
However, under close inspection with a magnifier, I have several questions about whether this dial is a refurbished dial or not. The followings are a few pics taken under the magnifier/lupe. I have four suspicions and will describe them in the following:
(1). The ring/circle patterns under three chronograph hands are vague and seem to be covered by the paint. Also the paint surface seem to be coarse (not very smooth) under magnifier.
I went through many previous posts about 145.014 with a racing dail and found that some of them have very similar ring patterns and paint job like mine (for example, this one-owner racing dial with original paper: https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...al-first-owners-with-original-warranty.27850/ and this racing dial: https://omegaforums.net/threads/unique-speedmaster-mark-ii-145-014-dial.108429/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmaster-mark-ii-racing-145-014-with-crater-box.87998/). But I also found some of them have very visible and sharp ring patterns (for example: https://omegaforums.net/attachments/speedymkii-fs3-5-copy-jpg.511139/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/stunning-omega-speedmaster-markii-145-014-with-racing-dial.61218/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/one-owner-omega-speedmaster-145-014-mark-ii-racing.75083/ and https://omegaforums.net/threads/1972-omega-speedmaster-mkii-racing-dial-145-014-serviced.27701/).
I am very confused.
(2). The font of the tachymetre:
This font is not quite like most of the 145.014 shown in this forum (here is an example: https://omegaforums.net/attachments/speedymkii-fs3-5-copy-jpg.511139/) but it is actually very like the picture from omega's official webpage
(3). The lume and paint are rough from place to place:
You can find that there is a patch of green rust residual still on the dial (the first pic above and near T Swiss Made T. This makes me wonder a refurbished dial after rust). I also felt that the thickness of the time ticks are not very even from place to place, looks more like a hand paint or a machine paint work. But again, many racing dial watches of that period had similar even thickness of the time ticks as well.
(4) I found an orange paint (or look alike) on the case back: Of course, it might not be related to the orange paint on the dial. I heard that some sellers will mark their watch so that when the watch is returned, they can make sure that the watch is still the original one.
Base on these suspicions, I am worrying that this dial is a refurnished or repainted dial (with a reasonable good quality).
I would truly appreciate that you can provide your suggestions or opinions on this dial. The seller is reasonable. If this is a refurbished dial according to your suggestions/opinions, I will contact him to return this watch.
Thank you so much for your help as always and in advance!
The followings are some additional pictures of this watch (you can find its ok but not great hand polishing by the seller):
Sorry to bother you with this long post. I recently purchase an Omega Speedmaster 145.014 racing dial from a Japanese store on Chrono24 (they have 5/5 rating from >200 purchases). The watch runs accurately with 5s daily difference. Chronograph functions very well. The dial has a very nice condition.
However, under close inspection with a magnifier, I have several questions about whether this dial is a refurbished dial or not. The followings are a few pics taken under the magnifier/lupe. I have four suspicions and will describe them in the following:
(1). The ring/circle patterns under three chronograph hands are vague and seem to be covered by the paint. Also the paint surface seem to be coarse (not very smooth) under magnifier.
I went through many previous posts about 145.014 with a racing dail and found that some of them have very similar ring patterns and paint job like mine (for example, this one-owner racing dial with original paper: https://omegaforums.net/threads/ome...al-first-owners-with-original-warranty.27850/ and this racing dial: https://omegaforums.net/threads/unique-speedmaster-mark-ii-145-014-dial.108429/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmaster-mark-ii-racing-145-014-with-crater-box.87998/). But I also found some of them have very visible and sharp ring patterns (for example: https://omegaforums.net/attachments/speedymkii-fs3-5-copy-jpg.511139/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/stunning-omega-speedmaster-markii-145-014-with-racing-dial.61218/ and this one: https://omegaforums.net/threads/one-owner-omega-speedmaster-145-014-mark-ii-racing.75083/ and https://omegaforums.net/threads/1972-omega-speedmaster-mkii-racing-dial-145-014-serviced.27701/).
I am very confused.
(2). The font of the tachymetre:
This font is not quite like most of the 145.014 shown in this forum (here is an example: https://omegaforums.net/attachments/speedymkii-fs3-5-copy-jpg.511139/) but it is actually very like the picture from omega's official webpage
(3). The lume and paint are rough from place to place:
You can find that there is a patch of green rust residual still on the dial (the first pic above and near T Swiss Made T. This makes me wonder a refurbished dial after rust). I also felt that the thickness of the time ticks are not very even from place to place, looks more like a hand paint or a machine paint work. But again, many racing dial watches of that period had similar even thickness of the time ticks as well.
(4) I found an orange paint (or look alike) on the case back: Of course, it might not be related to the orange paint on the dial. I heard that some sellers will mark their watch so that when the watch is returned, they can make sure that the watch is still the original one.
Base on these suspicions, I am worrying that this dial is a refurnished or repainted dial (with a reasonable good quality).
I would truly appreciate that you can provide your suggestions or opinions on this dial. The seller is reasonable. If this is a refurbished dial according to your suggestions/opinions, I will contact him to return this watch.
Thank you so much for your help as always and in advance!
The followings are some additional pictures of this watch (you can find its ok but not great hand polishing by the seller):