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"New hypothesis"
They vaguely describe some artificial method of giving the perception of depth.
They give no evidence that it has actually worked.

As someone who works with one eye (through a loupe) a good portion of my days, I can tell you that two eyes are most certainly not needed in order to have some depth perception.

If you close one eye the world does not suddenly become "flat"...
 
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3D means three-dimensional, i.e. something that has width, height and depth (length). Our physical environment is three-dimensional and we move around in 3D every day.

We can only perceive 3 dimensions - but that does not mean the full picture does not include more - ie what we perceive as 3D space is in fact a projection / shadow from an 8 dimensional environment - which might explain for example spooky interaction at distance and the double slit experiment (which are both frankly weird). That would explain why the total amount of information in a black hole or given space is driven by its surface area and not its volume (unlike say a bath of water)
 
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3D means three-dimensional, i.e. something that has width, height and depth (length). Our physical environment is three-dimensional and we move around in 3D every day.

it’s called 3D tv only because it’s a 2D image made to look 3D.

Toast popping up is 3D in real life and I can see that with one eye open
We actually exist in 4 dimensions, the fourth being duration in time.
If something has zero duration it can not exist.
 
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We actually exist in 4 dimensions, the fourth being duration in time.
If something has zero duration it can not exist.

Yeah yeah, but do you see the toast pop with one eye ?
 
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We actually exist in 4 dimensions, the fourth being duration in time.
If something has zero duration it can not exist.

How many dimensions is a gas you can’t see......
 
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As someone who works with one eye (through a loupe) a good portion of my days, I can tell you that two eyes are most certainly not needed in order to have some depth perception.

If you close one eye the world does not suddenly become "flat"...
You do know about rendering and use of perspective in painting and drawing?
If done properly a flat 2D drawing can give the impression of depth.
Same goes for studying something you are very familiar with through a loupe. You know different parts are in different orientations because the various planes reflect light differently. Your mind fills in what you eye doesn't transmit.
To some extent persistence of vision plays a part. If you move the object about your mind retains what it saw earlier while processing what it sees now.
There have been attempts to create a 3D movie image on a regular TV screen without the use of 3D glasses by rapid imperceptible changes in orientation of the image. It worked to some extent but gave a lot of people eye strain and headaches.
 
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You do know about rendering and use of perspective in painting and drawing?

Yes, that's why it isn't about stereo vision as you keep saying. The perception of depth is because of perspective, angles, relative heights and sizes. Does a drawing that is drawn with the sort or perspective you are referring to loose that when you close one eye?
 
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Yes, that's why it isn't about stereo vision as you keep saying. The perception of depth is because of perspective, angles, relative heights and sizes.
All of which you see for real in real time when using both eyes.
Does a drawing that is drawn with the sort or perspective you are referring to loose that when you close one eye?
The drawing never had real perspective, only the illusion of it. It can't lose what it never had.


When you are looking at a watch movement through a loop you don't have to be convinced that what you see is really there and is oriented the way you already know it should be. Everything you see only confirms what you expect to see.
 
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All of which you see for real in real time when using both eyes.

And I also see it with one eye. Again, the world doesn't suddenly look flat when I close one eye. I can tell you easily with one eye open that point A is further away than point B. If that were not the case, people who were partially blind in one eye wouldn't be able to drive, and yet they can. Your claim is demonstrably false by anyone who has two eyes and can close one.

If you close one eye and call tell if one object is closer than another, perhaps you need to see a doctor.

When you are looking at a watch movement through a loop you don't have to be convinced that what you see is really there and is oriented the way you already know it should be. Everything you see only confirms what you expect to see.

You should open your other eye, because apparently you don't see that the hole you are in is getting deeper the more you dig...
 
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Well it seems you doubt the science behind depth perception.
Lack of depth perception or even poor depth perception can disqualify one from many pursuits. How many one eyed pro tennis players are there? How many pro baseball players are there?
When I was involved in film making one of the subjects we studied was forced perspective. On standard 2D film which is equivalent to looking at a scene with one eye we could make a frog look to be bigger than a house. No one who was actually there with both eyes open would see it that way.

If you've convinced yourself that you can see just as well with one eye as with both eyes far be it from me to disabuse you of that notion.
There are actually people who are totally blind, some with no eyes at all, who are convinced that they are not blind. This is called "Blind sight". The auditory , olfactory and other senses are routed through the visual cortex and in their mind they see images and scenes that correspond to that sensory input. Not accurately of course but they are convinced they actually see no matter how many times it is proven to them that they can not.
 
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Well it seems you doubt the science behind depth perception.

Not at all.

If you've convinced yourself that you can see just as well with one eye as with both eyes far be it from me to disabuse you of that notion.

Of course I never said it was "just as well" but you know that. What I have said is clear - I can see that objects are closer or farther with one eye closed.
 
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Of course I never said it was "just as well" but you know that. What I have said is clear - I can see that objects are closer or farther with one eye closed.

In an older film of Shakespeare's Henry the fifth part of the filming was done as if it were a stage play. In one scene I was surprised to see that a banquet table when shown from the side was actually very narrow. To give the impression of a broad table seen at a distance from the front the platters on the table were oval.
You may be able to judge distances in a limited fashion with only one eye but its not as easy as you seem to think it is, and certainly not as accurate. Most one eyed drivers have great difficulty in judging distances when driving at night, some are barred from driving after sunset.
You are most definitely not seeing in 3D when using one eye. You have no "depth perception" when using one eye. You can calculate the distances using various visual cues but you are not judging distances naturally which requires stereoscopic binocular vision.
With one eye your vision is impaired, though when looking through a loop it makes no difference since without the loop you'd have to hold an object so close to your eye that the other eye couldn't register its presence anyway.
For many years my distance vision was very limited, but I was able to focus on objects within an inch or less of one eye.
Due to an injury and botched surgery I was all but blind in one eye and for years I had to wear a patch over it otherwise I couldn't see well enough to walk. It was like having a thick broken lens held over one eye, very distracting. Having had only one very myopic eye that was usable I know exactly how difficult it is to adapt to monocular vision.
After another operation and 30+ years of nature taking care of things my vision is now nearly normal. My depth perception these days is good.

I can tell you that two eyes are most certainly not needed in order to have some depth perception.
What you've been describing is the illusion of depth perception. You are not seeing the differences in distance you are inferring them from other visual cues. Those same cues can be maniplutated to make you believe an object is closer than another when the opposite is true.

You seem you have objected to my answer to Standby's post.
So why do I see 3D with one eye closed.
Do you believe you can actually see in 3D when using only one eye?
 
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I had a one-eyed coach in high school, superb athlete, used to rock his head from side to side while playing lacrosse or driving a car, I guess to simulate binocular vision. Looked just like a rooster.
 
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You may be able to judge distances in a limited fashion with only one eye but its not as easy as you seem to think it is, and certainly not as accurate.

Thank you for acknowledging that the point I have been making all along is correct. Again, when you close one eye the world does not suddenly appear flat.

You are not seeing the differences in distance you are inferring them from other visual cues. Those same cues can be maniplutated to make you believe an object is closer than another when the opposite is true.

"Inferring them from other visual clues"...yes, like relative height angles, etc. as I've already stated. And, those same cues can be manipulated with both eyes open to also decieve the eye/mind.
 
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Father Time has all the answers

Thanks for that. The definition and duration of 'now' …(whoops there is goes again) - is another very hot debate. There is also a lot of research showing decisions appear to have been made ahead of conscious awareness of making the decision - more spooky stuff ...
 
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Well it seems you doubt the science behind depth perception.
Lack of depth perception or even poor depth perception can disqualify one from many pursuits. How many one eyed pro tennis players are there? How many pro baseball players are there?
When I was involved in film making one of the subjects we studied was forced perspective. On standard 2D film which is equivalent to looking at a scene with one eye we could make a frog look to be bigger than a house. No one who was actually there with both eyes open would see it that way.

If you've convinced yourself that you can see just as well with one eye as with both eyes far be it from me to disabuse you of that notion.
There are actually people who are totally blind, some with no eyes at all, who are convinced that they are not blind. This is called "Blind sight". The auditory , olfactory and other senses are routed through the visual cortex and in their mind they see images and scenes that correspond to that sensory input. Not accurately of course but they are convinced they actually see no matter how many times it is proven to them that they can not.

An interesting point - The brain cant directly feel pain and is trapped in a sealed box. It can only receive and interpret electro chemical signals. It will match those to our programmed (genetic and learnt) view of reality. Evolution has probably geared what we see to drive us away from danger and toward fitness points (on our interface screen which we see as reality). We cant truly know if a perceived colour or taste matches what others 'know'. We also perceive the world through a very limited window in terms of the available electro magnetic spectrum and possibly higher dimensions. The re-routing of senses (and now the use of interactive virtual reality helmets) shows that that what we perceive is a construct based on rules which can be changed. Our perception and understanding of time and consciousness might be flawed because of what 'feels right' - the brain is working hard to keep things simple and keep us focused (and maybe some people will exploit that). All figures below are the same size but brain creates a 3D image for us.
 
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A last thought for any of us who think perception can be a simple black and white 3D issue - Are there any / how many back dots on this image (which is a fixed jpg picture / not a Gif or video)