Hunt for Explorer

RonJ · Jul 9, 2020

Eve
i do eliminate a 14270 due to tritium lume, which i am not fond of. as i would like the watch to be functional (therefore 114270).

the last time i was negotiating for a full set 114270 a year ago, it was ~4500,- EUR. Now one year later you hardly find any under 5500,- in a similar condition. I personaly find the price a bit steep for this refence, but what do i know.

Yes, there is no telling how we'll look back at today's watch prices.
The world economy could go either way over the next 5 years.

A $6k watch could become a $12k watch given how much money is being printed these days.
Or, God forbid, we spiral into a major recession, it could become a $3k watch when people are desperate for cash.

I've lived through both scenarios in my lifetime.

killer67 · Jul 9, 2020

Eve
i do eliminate a 14270 due to tritium lume, which i am not fond of. as i would like the watch to be functional (therefore 114270).

the last time i was negotiating for a full set 114270 a year ago, it was ~4500,- EUR. Now one year later you hardly find any under 5500,- in a similar condition. I personaly find the price a bit steep for this refence, but what do i know.

gotcha - interesting how were living in the worst crisis in a century and a wristwatch is now €1000 more than last year. Fortune tellers could not have seen this

Eve · Jul 9, 2020

K killer67
gotcha - interesting how were living in the worst crisis in a century and a wristwatch is now €1000 more than last year. Fortune tellers could not have seen this

Exactly, i was also was thinking i will wait it out, the prices can not be only climbing, especially in the times like this..
I hesitated laying out 4,5k last year, now i hesitate even more while the prices reach the price of a new one 🤨

DSotW · Jul 9, 2020

Seems you have your heart set on the 39mm, so go for that.

The 36, which is nice, may be a bit "small" by today's standards? That too can change with time. My father's 36mm Two Tone looks quite "small" these days, and I wear a 39mm Omega.

tumbler · Jul 9, 2020

Eve
The funny thing is that both OB and AD told me that 36mm is for ladies!

You should go back when they only have a 36mm in stock. Without blinking, they will extoll the virtues of smaller and lighter, and make sure you know that the current trend is away from bigger case sizes.

Both are nice, but the 36mm is the better proportioned and classier choice.

mz_cle · Jul 9, 2020

I am partial to the 39 mm, 214270 mk2. I wear mine all the time in a variety of situations. It’s also the smallest watch I own, after my wife laid claim to my Seiko Alpinist. It’s also the only 3-hander I own; everything else has at least a date.

I can see based on the lugs and relative thinness of the Explorer for it to be pretty versatile given the wearer’s preference.

Gratuitous pic included.

airansun · Jul 12, 2020

Fascinating debate, although I’m a traditionalist who has hated the ‘new’ dial since it first came out, and only has love for the old face. I love the size of it.

@Eve : Sounds like you’re not quite ready to commit. I think you should wait. I’ve always regretted the pieces I didn’t really fall in love with, but instead settled for a compromise. I think, as Heinlein put it, you ought to “wait for fullness”. The right watch is worth waiting for.

Besides, I think it’s clear things are going to get much worse before they get better. On that basis, I suspect that the recent price inflation will prove to be a short-lived anomaly.

Stripey · Jul 12, 2020

Eve
i do eliminate a 14270 due to tritium lume, which i am not fond of. as i would like the watch to be functional (therefore 114270).

the last time i was negotiating for a full set 114270 a year ago, it was ~4500,- EUR. Now one year later you hardly find any under 5500,- in a similar condition. I personaly find the price a bit steep for this refence, but what do i know.

There are 14270s with non tritium lume at the end of the production - Rolex stopping using tritium doesn't coincide with the move from 14270 to 114270 - it happened several years before the change.

Eve · Jul 12, 2020

airansun
Fascinating debate, although I’m a traditionalist who has hated the ‘new’ dial since it first came out, and only has love for the old face. I love the size of it.

@Eve : Sounds like you’re not quite ready to commit. I think you should wait. I’ve always regretted the pieces I didn’t really fall in love with, but instead settled for a compromise. I think, as Heinlein put it, you ought to “wait for fullness”. The right watch is worth waiting for.

Besides, I think it’s clear things are going to get much worse before they get better. On that basis, I suspect that the recent price inflation will prove to be a short-lived anomaly.

I am too actually not a fan of modern oversized watches. But there is something about the whole case proportions of the 39mm Explorer that i like more than 36mm case, nevertheless the watch does wear bigger than it is.

Maybe Rolex will anounce a 37,5mm Explorer in September, so it would be worth to wait 😗 probably not happening but, i am not in a hurry 😀

Who knows maybe i will go for something completely different after all.. I also like the IWC 3706 or Speedmaster FOIS very much, which are ironically also 39mm. ☕

Evitzee · Jul 12, 2020

You must live in a unique area where you can just stroll into a Rolex AD or boutique and have these sitting in the case ready for you to try on and purchase. Are they well stocked with steel Sub's and Daytona's too?

Eve · Jul 12, 2020

Stripey
There are 14270s with non tritium lume at the end of the production - Rolex stopping using tritium doesn't coincide with the move from 14270 to 114270 - it happened several years before the change.

True, not sure if there is difderence in Luminova and Superluminova that was used later. But the newer movement would be also my preference.

Eve · Jul 12, 2020

Evitzee
You must live in a unique area where you can just stroll into a Rolex AD or boutique and have these sitting in the case ready for you to try on and purchase. Are they well stocked with steel Sub's and Daytona's too?

Maybe i was lucky, i dont know. But both times i visited the OB they had Explorer 1 ready to go.

Honestly, i didnt ask for Sub or Daytona, as i was not interested in those 😟

Benbradstock · Jul 13, 2020

airansun
Fascinating debate, although I’m a traditionalist who has hated the ‘new’ dial since it first came out, and only has love for the old face. I love the size of it.

@Eve : Sounds like you’re not quite ready to commit. I think you should wait. I’ve always regretted the pieces I didn’t really fall in love with, but instead settled for a compromise. I think, as Heinlein put it, you ought to “wait for fullness”. The right watch is worth waiting for.

Besides, I think it’s clear things are going to get much worse before they get better. On that basis, I suspect that the recent price inflation will prove to be a short-lived anomaly.

Nice 1016: those are the best of the bunch IMO and my grail piece at the moment.

killer67 · Jul 13, 2020

Benbradstock
Nice 1016: those are the best of the bunch IMO and my grail piece at the moment.

Frog foot dial with a jubilee 🥰

septentrio · Jul 13, 2020

214270 all the way!

RonJ · Jul 13, 2020

K killer67
Frog foot dial with a jubilee 🥰

Thank you for posting about the "Frog Foot" on the dial.
I am learning stuff all the time on this forum.

I went and did some google searching to compare the Rolex Coronet on two different Explorer watches.
Here is the regular one next to the frog foot one. Interesting detail.

killer67 · Jul 13, 2020

RonJ-in-VA
Thank you for posting about the "Frog Foot" on the dial.
I am learning stuff all the time on this forum.

I went and did some google searching to compare the Rolex Coronet on two different Explorer watches.
Here is the regular one next to the frog foot one. Interesting detail.

I’ve seen 3 different MK 1 dials; yours pictured looks like a later one 70-74

imagwai · Jul 13, 2020

I have the 114270. Tried both that and the 214270 before I bought. I could have worn either comfortably, despite my 6.75" wrist, but the 39mm proportions felt a little oversized and not as perfect as the 36mm.

Funnily enough, it was seeing a 114270 on a girl's wrist that made me determined to get an Explorer, but it's definitely for (real) men as well 😀

ajn3323 · Jul 13, 2020

I owned a 114270 and “upgraded” it to a 214270 MK2 when it came out in 2016. I also have a 7-inch wrist. It’s the only modern Rolex in my collection (I have a few vintage). Anyway I find the 39 proportions to work better for me and it came with a 10-year warranty. As I look back on the decision, I guess part of my thinking was if I was gonna wear a 36-mm Explorer, let it be a 1016. I never did get a 1016. The only drawback to the 39-mm
is that it’s one of the few modern Rolex that sells for less than MSRP on the secondary market. But resale value is not why I bought it in the first place! Good luck

Sanremo · Jul 17, 2020

airansun
Fascinating debate, although I’m a traditionalist who has hated the ‘new’ dial since it first came out, and only has love for the old face. I love the size of it.

@Eve : Sounds like you’re not quite ready to commit. I think you should wait. I’ve always regretted the pieces I didn’t really fall in love with, but instead settled for a compromise. I think, as Heinlein put it, you ought to “wait for fullness”. The right watch is worth waiting for.

Besides, I think it’s clear things are going to get much worse before they get better. On that basis, I suspect that the recent price inflation will prove to be a short-lived anomaly.

My 1016 frog foot says Hi!

I use to have a 14270 but could not resist the 1016 when the opportunity came up.

Hunt for Explorer

RonJ

killer67

Eve

DSotW

tumbler

mz_cle

airansun

Stripey

Eve

Evitzee

Eve

Eve

Benbradstock

killer67

septentrio

RonJ

killer67

imagwai

ajn3323

Sanremo

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