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M'Bob
·For winding, can I just hold the crown, and spin the watch around it?
how often should i (can i ) wind the moon pro?
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blufinz52
··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.While you may correct about the meaning of specific words, the watch is designed to be wound every day. Not up for debate from a technical point of view, no matter what people want to believe.
Well, there you have it. No matter the meaning of specific words. Not up for debate!
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerWell, there you have it. No matter the meaning of specific words. Not up for debate!
I'm not sure why a small group of people want to foment controversy over this issue, but it's puzzling. Omega says in their video manual to wind it once a day, it says in the hardcopy manual to wind it once a day, so why the constant quibbling on this? Nothing better to do with your day? I have no idea, but if you intend to use the watch as it was intended it should be wound every day. If you don't believe me, wait for 46 or 47 hours, and then start the chronograph to time something, and see how well you can time an event...
No matter how much people want to debate this topic, facts are facts - it's designed to be wound once per day. If you want to know why Omega isn't more definitive on this, ask them.
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M'Bob
·I'm not sure why a small group of people want to foment controversy over this issue, but it's puzzling. Omega says in their video manual to wind it once a day, it says in the hardcopy manual to wind it once a day, so why the constant quibbling on this? Nothing better to do with your day? I have no idea, but if you intend to use the watch as it was intended it should be wound every day. If you don't believe me, wait for 46 or 47 hours, and then start the chronograph to time something, and see how well you can time an event...
No matter how much people want to debate this topic, facts are facts - it's designed to be wound once per day. If you want to know why Omega isn't more definitive on this, ask them.
Since we're so far down this rabbit hole anyway, I will toss out this (hopefully) last bit of esoterica: do they say "daily," or every 24 hours? Because one would intuit once per 24 hours from "daily," but daily does not necessarily mean the same time per day.
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SpeedyD
·Since we're so far down this rabbit hole anyway, I will toss out this (hopefully) last bit of esoterica: do they say "daily," or every 24 hours? Because one would intuit once per 24 hours from "daily," but daily does not necessarily mean the same time per day.
All depends which planet you are on. Not All days are equal.
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M'Bob
·All depends which planet you are on. Not All days are equal.
Actually, there is a difference here: the question is whether it matters. If you tell a patient to take a medicine once every 24 hours, that's not the same as telling someone the trash has to be out by midnight on Tuesday. The latter implies that it is acceptable to do something within a 24 window; the former implies that something has to be done each day, at the same time.
So with watches, as I mentioned: we intuit that, when told "daily," it should be done every 24 hours, at nearly the same time. However, daily could mean just wind it once within a 24 hour period. That is hardly the same thing. Sorry, but words do have different meanings...
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SpeedyD
·Actually, there is a difference here: the question is whether it matters. If you tell a patient to take a medicine once every 24 hours, that's not the same as telling someone the trash has to be out by midnight on Tuesday. The latter implies that it is acceptable to do something within a 24 window; the former implies that something has to be done each day, at the same time.
So with watches, as I mentioned: we intuit that, when told "daily," it should be done every 24 hours, at nearly the same time. However, daily could mean just wind it once within a 24 hour period. That is hardly the same thing. Sorry, but words do have different meanings...
There’s an easy answer. If it is all too complicated then buy a quartz.
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blufinz52
··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.I'm not sure why a small group of people want to foment controversy over this issue, but it's puzzling. Omega says in their video manual to wind it once a day, it says in the hardcopy manual to wind it once a day, so why the constant quibbling on this? Nothing better to do with your day? I have no idea, but if you intend to use the watch as it was intended it should be wound every day. If you don't believe me, wait for 46 or 47 hours, and then start the chronograph to time something, and see how well you can time an event...
No matter how much people want to debate this topic, facts are facts - it's designed to be wound once per day. If you want to know why Omega isn't more definitive on this, ask them.
No controversy, just a simple question about winding a watch, which you answered. I disagree with your interpretation of 'the watch should be wound once a day', that's all. No need to get angry. People can disagree with you without being from another planet. For the record, when I owned a Speedy, I wound it every morning, whether I was going to wear it that day or not. Just part of my routine. I just don't think it's 'meant to be', that's all. You do. It's all good Al 👍
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Folgono
·This thread is fascinating. 🤨
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerNo controversy, just a simple question about winding a watch, which you answered. I disagree with your interpretation of 'the watch should be wound once a day', that's all. No need to get angry. People can disagree with you without being from another planet. For the record, when I owned a Speedy, I wound it every morning, whether I was going to wear it that day or not. Just part of my routine. I just don't think it's 'meant to be', that's all. You do. It's all good Al 👍
I'm not angry at all, rather bemused, and somewhat puzzled. I've been posting on watch forums for nearly 2 decades now, and never has anyone questioned the winding procedure for a watch that's been around for 50 plus years to this degree, so congrats on that. 👍
You say you disagree with my interpretation, yet the watch won't function as intended if you let it go 2 days. I'm guessing the guys debating the meaning of words are all lawyers? Not sure, but it's pretty clear Omega says to wind it each day, so if you want to disagree with that, you aren't disagreeing with me, but Omega.
From a post someone made of what's in the hardcopy manual:
"a single winding each day will ensure that it functions correctly"
If you want to parse those words, have at it. To me it's about as clear as clear could be. Again if you wait until 48 hours and try to time something, the watch won't work as intended.
In the end, I know I won't convince the flat earthers here, but hopefully those who come upon this thread seeking information on winding a Speedy Pro will conclude the right thing - just wind it every day and all will be fine.
Cheers, Al
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blufinz52
··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.Flat earthers! Can you respond without ad hominems? Do you always have to get the last word? Are you the final word on everything?
You have achieved a level of high respect on this forum. Deservedly so. But I think you take advantage of your status here, perhaps unknowingly, to be snarky with anyone who might not agree with you. Come down from your high horse and show a little humility on others' points of view.
Cheers, Mike
You have achieved a level of high respect on this forum. Deservedly so. But I think you take advantage of your status here, perhaps unknowingly, to be snarky with anyone who might not agree with you. Come down from your high horse and show a little humility on others' points of view.
Cheers, Mike
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Duckie
·That's my confusion with the instructions, as posted earlier. It sounds risky to wind too often, and I wonder why.
" Note: do not wind the watch more often than is necessary. For
a watch that is worn all the time, a single winding each day will
ensure that it functions correctly."
The only risk associated with winding too often would relate to being ham fisted, thus overwinding it and possibly breaking the Main spring.
Winding the watch once a day is probably regarded as the simplest and easiest way to approach the issue.
I sometimes wind mine twice a day (at night before going to sleep and in the morning when I wake up).
My rationale.
The total amount of winding required per day is the same overall. But the Mainspring is kept as close to possible to being fully wound for consistency.
I don't overwind because I have a degree of mechanical sympathy instilled into my DNA due to the fact my Dad used to let me wind his watch when I was a kid and my first two watches(starting with a Mickey Mouse watch) were manual winds.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerFlat earthers! Can you respond without ad hominems? Do you always have to get the last word? Are you the final word on everything?
You have achieved a level of high respect on this forum. Deservedly so. But I think you take advantage of your status here, perhaps unknowingly, to be snarky with anyone who might not agree with you. Come down from your high horse and show a little humility on others' points of view.
Cheers, Mike
Hi Mike,
There are many people here who have invested a lot of their time to ensure that technical information posted here is accurate so that this forum can act as a reference regarding Omegas. I'm only one of them, and I don't claim to know everything - far from it as the collectors on this forum know far more about things like what dial variation goes with what vintage watch, and all those sorts of things. My expertise is just watchmaking and in many respects it's much easier than keeping track of all the model variations etc. that the true collectors here do.
As time goes by and the forum grows, it becomes more difficult to refute incorrect information that is posted. It feels like a losing battle and I'll be honest it does wear on me. If the squirrel is lurking he's probably laughing and saying "I told you so" and maybe he's right.
By the way, I'm not the final word on things - Omega is, and has been said several times in this thread, they advise people to wind it every day to ensure proper operation of the watch. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that, and again it puzzles me why people are adamant in making it so...
If I get snarky it's out of frustration at arguing the same things over and over again. I can tell you what I write here is nothing compared to some of the hate mail I get. Anyway, I'm not trying to get the last word in here, just trying to express why this can be so frustrating. You are clearly free to believe whatever you want about the winding of a Speedmaster.
Anyway, that's that.
Cheers, Al
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SpeedyD
·How often do you have to change the battery though?
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blufinz52
··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.Hi Mike,
There are many people here who have invested a lot of their time to ensure that technical information posted here is accurate so that this forum can act as a reference regarding Omegas. I'm only one of them, and I don't claim to know everything - far from it as the collectors on this forum know far more about things like what dial variation goes with what vintage watch, and all those sorts of things. My expertise is just watchmaking and in many respects it's much easier than keeping track of all the model variations etc. that the true collectors here do.
As time goes by and the forum grows, it becomes more difficult to refute incorrect information that is posted. It feels like a losing battle and I'll be honest it does wear on me. If the squirrel is lurking he's probably laughing and saying "I told you so" and maybe he's right.
By the way, I'm not the final word on things - Omega is, and has been said several times in this thread, they advise people to wind it every day to ensure proper operation of the watch. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that, and again it puzzles me why people are adamant in making it so...
If I get snarky it's out of frustration at arguing the same things over and over again. I can tell you what I write here is nothing compared to some of the hate mail I get. Anyway, I'm not trying to get the last word in here, just trying to express why this can be so frustrating. You are clearly free to believe whatever you want about the winding of a Speedmaster.
Anyway, that's that.
Cheers, Al
Al, fair enough. Well said. It’s all good! 👍
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Duckie
·Hi Mike,
There are many people here who have invested a lot of their time to ensure that technical information posted here is accurate so that this forum can act as a reference regarding Omegas. I'm only one of them, and I don't claim to know everything - far from it as the collectors on this forum know far more about things like what dial variation goes with what vintage watch, and all those sorts of things. My expertise is just watchmaking and in many respects it's much easier than keeping track of all the model variations etc. that the true collectors here do.
As time goes by and the forum grows, it becomes more difficult to refute incorrect information that is posted. It feels like a losing battle and I'll be honest it does wear on me. If the squirrel is lurking he's probably laughing and saying "I told you so" and maybe he's right.
By the way, I'm not the final word on things - Omega is, and has been said several times in this thread, they advise people to wind it every day to ensure proper operation of the watch. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that, and again it puzzles me why people are adamant in making it so...
If I get snarky it's out of frustration at arguing the same things over and over again. I can tell you what I write here is nothing compared to some of the hate mail I get. Anyway, I'm not trying to get the last word in here, just trying to express why this can be so frustrating. You are clearly free to believe whatever you want about the winding of a Speedmaster.
Anyway, that's that.
Cheers, Al
Always keep in mind it's their cat so they can f***k it any way they want. Whether they choose to tape the claws up or not is purely their option.
An ounce of experience is better than a ton of theory.
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mmrols
·I also recently purchased a SMP and while I know daily winding at the same time is recommended, should the watch be wound all the way if winding is done daily? It seems to me like daily winding the mainspring to full power would not be necessary if the watch has a 48 hour power reserve. Any thoughts on this?
