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How long does a Speedmaster Reduced last without being worn?
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··Oooo subtitles!I dunno man some of the earlier rarer or just more interesting reduced are becoming very collectible! the white dial and the early black particularly... there is also the ultra rare all steel white dial on the 1042 style strap... japanese racers i think the reduced are the next little bubble
Here have some pics of some speedy reduced!
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerPrice is quoted by a third party watch shop. They specialize in servicing watches and selling pre-owned watches.
This is most likely for servicing the base movement only. In other words, not a proper service they would be skipping the chronograph module. I would find a shop that will do the job right, or send it to Omega.
Cheers, Al
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spoodxw
·This is most likely for servicing the base movement only. In other words, not a proper service they would be skipping the chronograph module. I would find a shop that will do the job right, or send it to Omega.
Cheers, Al
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spoodxw
·Final update. My 2nd run for 30 turns got me about 36-37 hours.
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vanbc
·Just to confirm should I be winding with crown fully pressed in or is there a functional small 1st position of crown out where I should be winding? Clockwise of course too correct? Please excuse any basic parts of my questions as I am just wanting to be 100% sure? Thank you, just got my watch and love it.
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··Oooo subtitles!Final update. My 2nd run for 30 turns got me about 36-37 hours.
I am beginning to suspect that the many of the problems reported with the Reduced aren't purely down to the watch...
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wayneG
·This thread is like pulling teeth. The OP clearly won't listen to any advice so why bother replying? You need to wind the watch fully. Full. Not 30 turns, and why 30 anyway? Your watch has a barrel that is wound by turning the crown and/or the rotor winding throughout the day as you wear it. This stores energy until it's max'd out.
If you've wound it 30 turns and only got a few hours overnight whilst it's static, but then another time had lots of hours out of it, it's because it's been worn and it wasn't just the crown winding that powered it to 36/38 hours. Obviously! It's an automatic.
You need to wind the crown until you can hear a little click which is a part of the mechanism that stops over-winding. Once you hear this, the watch has all the power and toque available to it. Then the only way to test how long it runs is to leave it static rather than wear it, to judge how long the Power Reserve is.
Omega will quote you for a service, but then they'll probably spot other things when it's with them and ask you to pay extra. However this is a generic ETA movement so I would consider someone such as:
Brendan @ www.webwatchmaker.com or Duncan @ www.thewatchbloke.co.uk as they will both be cheaper and probably quicker.
If you've wound it 30 turns and only got a few hours overnight whilst it's static, but then another time had lots of hours out of it, it's because it's been worn and it wasn't just the crown winding that powered it to 36/38 hours. Obviously! It's an automatic.
You need to wind the crown until you can hear a little click which is a part of the mechanism that stops over-winding. Once you hear this, the watch has all the power and toque available to it. Then the only way to test how long it runs is to leave it static rather than wear it, to judge how long the Power Reserve is.
Omega will quote you for a service, but then they'll probably spot other things when it's with them and ask you to pay extra. However this is a generic ETA movement so I would consider someone such as:
Brendan @ www.webwatchmaker.com or Duncan @ www.thewatchbloke.co.uk as they will both be cheaper and probably quicker.
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Motman
·Glad to hear that a click confirms it's fully wound. I got that the other week for the first time on my new Speedmaster '57. One question though - when someone says 30 turns, does that mean 30 complete turns of the winder? Almost impossible to do on my watch due to the size of my fingers and the chrono buttons so I just go back and forth on the winder with the inside of my forefinger. I lost count at well over 100 'strokes' on my one before I got the click (I thought I'd snapped something!). I thought I was going to end up with a blister on my finger. Just to confirm, it's okay to get a click when winding an automatic watch, yes?
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wayneG
·Yes most modern autos have a click to tell you when it's fully wound. One full wind is one full wind. Imagine you have a marker line on one side of the crown, one wind will get it back to where it started. I'm no expert but I always wind my watches fully and then let the automatic rotor take over and I never have any issues. This means the movement has all the toque it needs to stay as accurate as possible.
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Motman
·Thanks. Just been and checked. No marker on crown but using the Omega symbol I gave it one 'stroke' and found that it went at least one and a bit revolutions (I didn't think I was even getting a full turn). Anyway, I thought I'd give it a good wind up to see how many 'strokes' I would get before I got the click. I chickened out and stopped winding at 200 strokes which probably equated to around 270 turns!
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Shailor
·The OP would do well to be paying attention to this thread. I bought my first Omega back in the mid seventies. A Flightmaster from a friend and commercial pilot who was awarded it as one of the first to fly a 747.
What this and other discussions here show is there are watch owners, like me, and watch experts. Just owning a nice timepiece means you are a caretaker. Listen to the experts.
What this and other discussions here show is there are watch owners, like me, and watch experts. Just owning a nice timepiece means you are a caretaker. Listen to the experts.
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wayneG
·Thanks. Just been and checked. No marker on crown but using the Omega symbol I gave it one 'stroke' and found that it went at least one and a bit revolutions (I didn't think I was even getting a full turn). Anyway, I thought I'd give it a good wind up to see how many 'strokes' I would get before I got the click. I chickened out and stopped winding at 200 strokes which probably equated to around 270 turns!
200 sounds like a lot tbh. Is it a Speedy reduced? Are you sure you aren't just mistaking the clicking sound for a winding sound? It's very subtle in some watches. I'd hate for you to over-wind it so might be worth getting a watchmaker to have a quick look over it?
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··Oooo subtitles!The clicking you refer to is just the mainspring sliding in the barrel to prevent over winding, sometimes it is imperceptible. Any more than 60 or at most 70 winds should be enough to fully wind any normal mainspring, not sure about the double spring movements like the 8500 series as I don't have one. This is obviously not the case with a manual wind watch like the Speemaster Pro which will have a fixed mainspring and will stop rather than click when fully wound, usually after ~ 50 winds or so.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaConsidering the fact that the OP hasn't taken advice, or responded for a month, and that this thread is spiralling into oblivion, I think it's time for kittens.
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Motman
·200 sounds like a lot tbh. Is it a Speedy reduced? Are you sure you aren't just mistaking the clicking sound for a winding sound? It's very subtle in some watches. I'd hate for you to over-wind it so might be worth getting a watchmaker to have a quick look over it?
It does seem a lot - is this because it has a 60 hour power reserve so can take/needs a good wind up? It's a 2017 Speedmaster '57 with the 9300 movement. When it got to the click last time, it was a definite resistance and more of a snap/crunch. I tried one more wind and got the same resistance/noise. I assumed (nay, hoped!) it was some kind of clutch mechanism. As its a birthday present (for this coming November!) and I've been forbidden to wear it full time until then, I've only been wearing it indoors for a few hours each night, giving it a few winds now and then. It keeps good time - no more than +2 seconds every 24 hours.
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While Googling for power reserve on this watch I came across this in an article about the movement.
"In an automatic movement, the barrel is traditionally fitted with a slip clutch as to prevent over winding. In Omega’s Two Barrel system, the first barrel is constructed in the style of a manual wind movement – sans slip clutch. The second can be considered a traditional barrel for automatic movement – with slip clutch."
Presumably what I had happen is normal for this watch.
Aah. Nice kittens!
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Shailor
·In the meantime, though, I've learned a lot from this thread. When I have the occasion to wind my new 300m, I won't have cardiac arrest when it starts clicking
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··Oooo subtitles!Awwww. It was worth it just for the kittens.
