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How long does a Speedmaster Reduced last without being worn?

  1. spoodxw May 11, 2017

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    Hi guys,

    I noticed that my Speedmaster Reduced only last approximately 10 hours without any wrist time.

    Meaning I just wind it about 30 turns and left it on the table.

    Is this normal?

    Thank you
     
  2. cwindham May 11, 2017

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    Needs a service, that is not normal. Should be 36-42 hrs if memory serves me correctly
     
  3. padders Oooo subtitles! May 11, 2017

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    Try 60 turns which should give you near 40 hours. If not get it serviced.
     
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  4. jasonrchua May 11, 2017

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    Also experienced that before with my Speedmaster MK40. Needs servicing according to Omega Service Center.
     
  5. spoodxw May 12, 2017

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    Okay i just gave it another round of testing.

    I wound it for 30 turns at 2.41AM currently at 6.07PM its still running.

    I was told to do an overhaul of the watch. Is it necessary?
     
  6. tyrantlizardrex May 12, 2017

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    How old is the watch?

    When was it last serviced?

    If the answer to either is "more than 5 years", it's probably worth getting it looked at.
     
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  7. padders Oooo subtitles! May 12, 2017

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    Did you hear what I said about 60 turns?
     
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  8. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 12, 2017

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    At this point the Speedmaster Reduced has been discontinued for around 7 years, so the answer to the question "does it need servicing" is invariably yes, unless it has a receipt from a qualified watchmaker within the last 5 years.

    What happens with these, especially the more basic and common black dial ones is that people wear them for years and years then dump them on eBay or a dealer rather than pay the servicing bill, this is especially true of any from eBay dealers as there is no margin to be had at all in servicing one correctly then trying to sell it at a profit. I've actually seen the same ones get passed around like a hot potato in the low 900-1200 range repeatedly badly in need of a service but never getting one as it makes more financial sense to unload it and buy another watch than pay the cost of an overhaul on the reduced.

    And for anyone else finding this thread off a google search, if a seller says one of these is in good running order and keeping perfect time but it has no service receipt, you're in for a bill.
     
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  9. Kmart May 12, 2017

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    Because apparently you would have to be insane to actually want to service and wear a Speedy Reduced. :rolleyes:
     
  10. FullyWound Hasn't discovered decaf yet. May 12, 2017

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    Until it gets to right ebay dealer ...
     
  11. FullyWound Hasn't discovered decaf yet. May 12, 2017

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    And then people make offers of £1200 not listening to the fact the watch has had a £400 service because they are idiots honestly i genuinly think there are as many bad buyers as there are sellers!

    The moral of the story is you get what you pay for buy private for £1200 expect to pay for a service at the very least...

    Buy from a GENUINE & honest dealer expect that all the leg work has been done for you YES the watch was checked YES all parts are orriginal YES the watch is in good condition YES the watch is serviced

    If your buying dealer and watches are not living up to expectations by all means you have the right to make them make it right!

    If your buying a £1200 watch on ebay i dont think you have the right to complain unless the watch has been grossly or intentionally misrepresented
     
  12. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 12, 2017

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    If you're paying for a full service on it done correctly, you either have to buy it very cheaply or sell it very high, it's more a matter of X + Y = Z. If you bought it off a guy for $600 he likely could have gotten far more ebaying it himself, and if you've sold it for 2K+ then the buyer has overpaid when there are much better options available for the money.
     
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  13. padders Oooo subtitles! May 12, 2017

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    I work on the basis that unless I see written proof of a recent service it didn't happen and routinely check using a timing machine. I was pleasantly surprised when I recently purchased a 41mm Chronostop and it actually was as healthy as the seller claimed but that is the exception, most unsubstantiated claims are bullshit. I extend my cynicism to traders also, if there isn't a piece of paper from STS or similar it didn't happen, or what did happen isn't worth spit.
     
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  14. FullyWound Hasn't discovered decaf yet. May 12, 2017

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    I dunno man some of the earlier rarer or just more interesting reduced are becoming very collectible! the white dial and the early black particularly... there is also the ultra rare all steel white dial on the 1042 style strap... japanese racers i think the reduced are the next little bubble

    Here have some pics of some speedy reduced!
     
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  15. spoodxw May 12, 2017

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    Ya i heard you, i'm just testing it at 30 turns again to see the results. If the results isn't good i'll try 60 turns.
    I was told by the seller that he got it serviced last year January. But a basic servicing nothing major was done.

    I went to a shop earlier today to get it checked, the store owner told me its time for an overhaul and it is running slow.
     
  16. FullyWound Hasn't discovered decaf yet. May 12, 2017

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    What the ::censored:: is a "basic" service? full service or no service?
     
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  17. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 12, 2017

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    The early black tritium reduced models are not even remotely rare, they were made in enormous numbers over many years, and they pumped out more "LE" reduced models than most people could count including the white two tone and the various pandas.

    Also half of those watches in those photos are not Speedmaster reduced watches at all, they're Speedmaster Date and Speedmaster MK40, a totally different model of watch.
     
  18. spoodxw May 12, 2017

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    He just told me basic service :thumbsdown:

    I was quoted approximately USD275 for an overhaul + polishing
     
  19. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 12, 2017

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    275 doesn't get you a service on a reduced, not even close.
     
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  20. spoodxw May 12, 2017

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    I think its due to currency difference. I'm from Malaysia so the price they quoted me is RM1200.