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How can a watch also be a compass?

  1. Engee Nov 19, 2020

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    On another thread here @Iceter mentioned the Seiko Alipinist https://www.seikowatches.com/uk-en/products/prospex/spb119j1 which think is rather interesting. But the obvious question came to mind. How does that work? A compass is basically a magnet that interacts with the earth's magnetism, but a watch hates a magnet. How can it be possible to make a watch with magnet built in?

    Clearly showing my utterly unscientific mind or knowledge, I'd love someone to explain this to me.
     
  2. MtnMarine Nov 19, 2020

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    To use your watch as an approximate compass outside of the tropics in the northern hemisphere, hold the watchhorizontal and point the hour hand at the sun. Half way between that point and the twelve o'clock mark on your watch points to the south.

    copied from geographyfieldwork.com

    no magnets involved, most movements aren’t anti magnetic. At least most vintage ones aren’t.
     
  3. Engee Nov 19, 2020

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    Right, but this watch has a rotating compass built in. If I know where the sun is and I know what time of day it is I can get an approximation of the direction I'm facing without pointing my watch anywhere. Sun rises in the east. If it's morning and the sun is up I know where north is.
     
  4. Ascalon Nov 19, 2020

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    I think the compass ring is there and rotatable to facilitate this method of reading.

    You still need to orient the watch correctly, as per above, to get North. Then turn the inner ring to align with the hand and then you can read accurately the major directions from there.
     
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  5. MtnMarine Nov 19, 2020

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    I didn’t realize that.... hopefully another more educated member can help you. My mistake.
     
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  6. Engee Nov 19, 2020

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    Aha, I see, so rotatable but not magnetic - thank you. That makes sense, although it also makes it nothing like as interesting as a tool.
     
  7. Engee Nov 19, 2020

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    No, it looks like you were more right than me!
     
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  8. Vercingetorix Spam Risk Nov 19, 2020

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  9. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 19, 2020

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  10. Ascalon Nov 19, 2020

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    That IWC is lovely.

    @Vercingetorix great handle, mate. A classics scholar, or Asterix fan?
     
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  11. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 19, 2020

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  12. redpcar Nov 19, 2020

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    Tissot T Touch also comes to mind. Pretty cool how the hands line up and act like a compass.

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  13. Vitezi Nov 19, 2020

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    [​IMG]
     
  14. Pun Nov 19, 2020

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    How to calculate south if it's 7 am? Just little dumb to understand...
     
  15. MtnMarine Nov 19, 2020

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    just sleep a few more hours and then check....
     
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  16. MtnMarine Nov 19, 2020

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    I happened to have an older model one of these in my watch bin. I may have to get it out and see if I get it back to working. Thanks!!
     
  17. Vitezi Nov 19, 2020

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    If you have access to @Mad Dog 's Boy Scout manual (from 1910), the explanation is here:
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  18. Iceter Nov 19, 2020

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    The Alpinist “compass” is just a rotating ring, operated by the second crown.
     
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  19. SpeedyPhill Founder Of Aussie Cricket Blog Mark Waugh Universe Nov 20, 2020

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    Knowing the exact time with Your wristwatch and seeing the Sun is enough...
    At noon Sun is in the South & moves on to the right into WEST ( noon = North for the Southern hemisphere moving on to the left into WEST )
     
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  20. STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 20, 2020

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    Umm yeah not really good if you on the ocean without land in sight.
    East west is sort of helpful but not all you need.

    Noon anywhere in the world makes north every way you look...:whistling: (think about it)
     
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