Horror Story With Jomashop

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Ready for this one guys?

I just got a random email with a $50 refund for the order. With no explanation, no follow up information, nothing.

Now I'm getting angry.
 
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Ready for this one guys?

I just got a random email with a $50 refund for the order. With no explanation, no follow up information, nothing.

Now I'm getting angry.
Don't cash it. Give them a call
 
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Don't cash it. Give them a call
And say what? Give me more money? It's going to be a big song and dance.
 
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And say what?

That unfortunately, you had to relay your terrible buying experience with them on a popular forum, and that as a result, many who potentially could have been customers, will never be, because of your transaction. And the money they have lost in future customers way exceeds what they owe you. But, there is also a window still open for them to do the right thing. And if they don't, I for one, will never give them my business. And I do peruse their site.
 
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Geez, good luck with this. I have always been tempted with the great discounts with the grey market dealers but then I have to rewind and think is it worth my effort, time and most importantly health if something goes wrong....Again good luck and hopefully this will get resolved accordingly.
 
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I'd just return it. wash my hands of it & never deal with them again. what a hassle.
 
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JS will not allow a return if the watch has been worn (at least per my research of this issue a couple of years back). Not sure how this changes if the watch is missing accessories.

OP - you'll want JS to procure the box for you or refund you for the full amount of the box. Call them again. You will NOT want to do a credit card chargeback, because this is how it will play out:

- you file a chargeback, you send the watch back then get your money back
- in a few weeks, you'll get a demand letter from JS lawyers for $$$ in the hundreds to thousands of bucks because of the costs they claim to incur to "refurbish" the watch and for "loss of value" - because you wore it.

Don't do a chargeback, you will end up with no watch and a big bill in effect for wearing the watch for a few days. I'm not making this up, I have read this happen in the forums. And when you allow that to happen, this will be a horror story
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Ready for this one guys?

I just got a random email with a $50 refund for the order. With no explanation, no follow up information, nothing.

Now I'm getting angry.
Yeah, the box they didn't ship is worth $750. $50 might cover shipping that box USPS Priority, and it's a nice try on their part.

A little laughable, but a nice try.

You've gotta wonder how many people have these problems if we hear about this stuff semi-regularly on the forums.
 
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That's the box that Omega supplies for ladies' watches.

That had occurred to me, especially since I was buying the 39.5mm. I don't really care if it was "intended" for women, it's a great watch and a great size for a lot of men too.

But the moonwatch is another matter entirely, since the box is part of the whole package. It's too bad JS's attitude is so bad about this. They've got a great thing going if they'd just stand by their warranty and customer service. Pretty much everyone I've read about who dealt with their CS has had a bad experience.
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Can OP just use his credit card company to get refund as JS never fulfilled their end of deal?
 
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Can OP just use his credit card company to get refund as JS never fulfilled their end of deal?
The credit card company may fully refund OP, but JS will send him a bill to refurbish the watch he is wearing now, plus depreciation. They have done it before. At this point the best course of action is to get JS to send OP the big box.
 
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Yeah, the box they didn't ship is worth $750. $50 might cover shipping that box USPS Priority, and it's a nice try on their part.

A little laughable, but a nice try.

You've gotta wonder how many people have these problems if we hear about this stuff semi-regularly on the forums.

I'd wager the overall amount of problems they have is not actually that high. Maybe they have more problems than your average gray market dealer, but they are an extremely high volume online retailer with razor-thin profit margins. I have heard a few poor experiences from JS, but I've actually heard an equal amount of people say that their watch arrived extremely quickly with no issues whatsoever. No one I know has ever had an issue, but they don't post about it on the forums.

In my opinion when you buy from Joma you roll the dice and hope that nothing goes wrong and that you don't have to deal with their customer service, which by all accounts is not great. That's the risk you take when you're buying well below market value. It can be worth it for certain watches, but for a Moonwatch -- of which there are many for sale on this forum, BNIB for a couple hundred bucks more -- I don't see why you would take the risk.
 
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I'd wager the overall amount of problems they have is not actually that high. Maybe they have more problems than your average gray market dealer, but they are an extremely high volume online retailer with razor-thin profit margins. I have heard a few poor experiences from JS, but I've actually heard an equal amount of people say that their watch arrived extremely quickly with no issues whatsoever. No one I know has ever had an issue, but they don't post about it on the forums.

In my opinion when you buy from Joma you roll the dice and hope that nothing goes wrong and that you don't have to deal with their customer service, which by all accounts is not great. That's the risk you take when you're buying well below market value. It can be worth it for certain watches, but for a Moonwatch -- of which there are many for sale on this forum, BNIB for a couple hundred bucks more -- I don't see why you would take the risk.
I mean just from what I've personally seen:

1) DSOTM black black, came with a 1/4 worn AR coating. Denied warranty and made the owner service it at his cost (~$1400?).

2) SMPc with serial number removed. Denied warranty and made the owner service at his cost (don't know what case middles go for, but that's a big number in addition to waiting for them to serialize it for him).

3) gen 3 PO with screws that were chewed up prior to him getting the watch. Told him to just go to Omega to get new screws. He got them, but a pretty crap experience.

I personally would never used JS on a watch costing over $1000. There are too many good dealers on the forums that you can get almost any watch BNIB or LNIB for so close to the JS price WITH warranty cards that it's not worth it.
 
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I mean just from what I've personally seen:

1) DSOTM black black, came with a 1/4 worn AR coating. Denied warranty and made the owner service it at his cost (~$1400?).

2) SMPc with serial number removed. Denied warranty and made the owner service at his cost (don't know what case middles go for, but that's a big number in addition to waiting for them to serialize it for him).

3) gen 3 PO with screws that were chewed up prior to him getting the watch. Told him to just go to Omega to get new screws. He got them, but a pretty crap experience.

I personally would never used JS on a watch costing over $1000. There are too many good dealers on the forums that you can get almost any watch BNIB or LNIB for so close to the JS price WITH warranty cards that it's not worth it.
My understanding is that JS does not own much of their inventory
 
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I mean just from what I've personally seen:

1) DSOTM black black, came with a 1/4 worn AR coating. Denied warranty and made the owner service it at his cost.

2) SMPc with serial number removed. Denied warranty and made the owner service at his cost.

3) gen 3 PO with screws that were chewed up prior to him getting the watch. Told him to just go to Omega to get new screws. He got them, but a pretty crap experience.

I personally would never used JS on a watch costing over $1000. There are too many good dealers on the forums that you can get almost any watch BNIB or LNIB for so close to the JS price WITH warranty cards that it's not worth it.

Right, I don't disagree with you there. I'm not denying that watches purchased via Jomashop don't sometimes have problems, because they do. Like I said, essentially what you're doing is gambling on the fact that the watch that you received will be fine. If it is, then you've just saved yourself some money. If not, and you're forced to send it to Omega, then you've lost the bet and now you're out more money than if you had just bought it here on the forums with full manufacturer's warranty. Either way, you're still saving well over $1000 off of MSRP -- even if you do have to pay out of pocket for a service.

I think a lot of people fundamentally do not understand this and generally feel far too entitled when purchasing from them. It's called the gray market for a reason...
 
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That's the problem when you don't own a lot of your inventory - who knows what your partners send you?
Exactly. I'm fine rolling the dice on less than $1000, but over that? Nah, I'll source one that I'll be happy with. $100 here or there won't make a difference if I'm happy with the watch I get.
 
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And say what? Give me more money? It's going to be a big song and dance.
Wow just 50 bucks offered, that box retails at $750 and if you do a dispute and return the watch, personally if I were you I would bring it to your local OB and have a tech do a complimentary cleaning and diagnostic check to make sure the watch is fine and send the results with it so they do not try and charge you for a "worn watch"
 
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Damn, I was considering JS but sounds like its a shit hole. Thanks to everyone's input. I hope OP can sort this out without incurring any costs. Sometimes, just absorb it and move on and learn the lesson :3