Home Safe

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Insurance is not included, but for me its safe enough in a locked room in a locked box in a Bank. Insurance has its own problems, valuations, receipts etc.

Fair enough! I'm one watch away from exceeding the cash limit of my safe anyway, so I may look into your solution 😀
 
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If your in London I would consider Metro Bank. £250 per year for a safety deposit box that will hold all the watches your not wearing. 7 days a week access, and its open late.
Seems pricey, but like all real estate it's "location, location, location". I'm in smallish US town (12,000 people) and I pay $40/yr for a 10 x 10 x 24 inch box, access 5 days per week, 9 am to 5 pm. Works for me, just a 10 min drive from my house.
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I went through this same research a couple years ago. If you decide to go the safe route look for something heavy duty with a UL rating and make sure it is securely bolted to the floor in a position that would make it difficult for a thief to get leverage on the unit.
As others have mentioned, safes are magnets for thieves and even a UL rated safe can be broken into by a professional or simply carried off.
The solution I ended up with is hidden storage in my home. Essentially my watches are hidden in plain sight for easy access but where nobody would expect to look. If you do a search for “hidden gun storage” there are many products out there and you can get some ideas.
We also have home security and a dog. A multi-method approach is best!
 
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Some great ideas, and hiding in plain site is certainly food for thought, I’ll look into that too...
many thanks
 
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So how does it work - with this tool, they pry the safe away from the wall simply with leverage and ripping the self-expanding dowels (sorry, had to look up the translation to english, basically those plastic inserts that you fit the hole so the bolt threads into something)?

Just educating myself for a future possible carreer reconversion here 😁

Its probably better to use Dynabolts 😉

 
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Golden rule with home safes if it can be carried by less than three people it’s too small. 😉
Unfortunately not many people have the room for a huge safe. My father is a rigger and his company does a lot of work for banks. Years ago he got himself and me huge safes from a bank demolition for free. They are lagged to the floor (cement) and in my case we built around the safe so it blends into its surroundings. That's pretty vague but I don't share specifics and pictures of it but let's say I'm pretty proud at how it all came out. People walk by it all the time and have no clue it's even a safe Haha.
 
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There was a piece in the NY Times (or Post) about how safety deposit boxes aren't actually insured. So if someone does get into yours, you won't be covered. Admittedly that was in the US - does Metro Bank insure all contents for a flat £250 p/a?

Here it is. It's a very good read.
 
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There was a piece in the NY Times (or Post) about how safety deposit boxes aren't actually insured. So if someone does get into yours, you won't be covered. Admittedly that was in the US - does Metro Bank insure all contents for a flat £250 p/a?

"Deafboy, post: 1369019, member: 18896"]Here it is. It's a very good read.

Yikes. Anyone know the legals concerning these boxes in UK jurisdictions, please? I'm not yet a user, but really need to think about this issue...
 
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As others have said it is not just what kind of safe you have it is where it is kept. Clearly it needs to be permanently secured to a floor but ensuring that it is not somewhere obvious also helps in my view. Of course none of us really know how secure a home safe is until it is tested and frankly we all hope it is never tested.

There are plenty of reputable security companies in the UK that can advise you what kind of safe is best for your circumstances.
 
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I see a few of us have similar ideas 🙄

Given a few months 😀
 
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Yikes. Anyone know the legals concerning these boxes in UK jurisdictions, please? I'm not yet a user, but really need to think about this issue...
Don't freak out over the horror stories, break ins to safe deposit boxes are few and far between. You are far safer using a SD box than keeping your stash at home.
 
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I read this collection of tips, videos, and info over the course of several sittings.... Lots of material to consider.
It primarily deals with gun safes, but I believe the basic information should transfer
However, the takeaway from this should be to realize how flimsy many "safes" are. It was an eye opener for me.

https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/



https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/how-to-protect-your-guns/#layer-security
 
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Safes are for fire protection primarily, not security. Fire is the much higher risk. Buy the highest fire protection. Keep in mind there are no standards for residential fire ratings, so do your best in comparison.

If you did an adequate search you found my dissertation on safes from 20yrs experience with them.
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Living in central London means theft/burglary is a significant concern, sadly.
Mrs is going to love it when I have a huge safe delivered for half a dozen watches, passports and some mediocre jewellery that will take up lots of potential shoe storage space
I’ll have a word with my insurance co and see what their thoughts are or alternatively my work has safety deposit facilities so may look into that.
Gotta keep the shoe space free as much as possible after all!

Tell your Mrs that you’ll be buying her some expensive jewellery in future and want to ensure it’s kept secure in a good safe, just don’t tell her when in the future and advise that the more she asks, the longer it will take.
Ps. I’m not a divorce lawyer or Audiologist, but suspect you might soon need one or the other .
 
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Safes are for fire protection primarily, not security. Fire is the much higher risk. Buy the highest fire protection. Keep in mind there are no standards for residential fire ratings, so do your best in comparison.

If you did an adequate search you found my dissertation on safes from 20yrs experience with them.
Sorry, not finding any links to your writings.... Please furnish a link or feel free to pm me as I'd like to learn more.
Thanks, Tom