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Mothra
·ok, I'm confused. Why is sapphire better than hesalite for a caseback? Surely that's the side that really wont take a beating?
Hesalite for the win!
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yinzerniner
·ok, I'm confused. Why is sapphire better than hesalite for a caseback? Surely that's the side that really wont take a beating?
@Frunkinator
I agree that the modern Speedy Pro bracelets are a bit too chunky - the 1498/1499 is a nice compromise between modern link build quality with traditional taper.
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VetPsychWars
·I agree that the modern Speedy Pro bracelets are a bit too chunky - the 1498/1499 is a nice compromise between modern link build quality with traditional taper.
Interesting. I upgraded my bracelet because I thought the 20/18 was much better and more attractive than the 20/16 it came with.
Tom
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Frunkinator
·I'm ok with chunky to be honest. I actually like the SMPc bond bracelets. But in regard to the Speedmaster I'm just not a huge fan of the polished mid links blended into the brushed ones. Just my opinion. I'll still rock it, but this was the first watch that I ever bought straps for it immediately and was excited to use.
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VetPsychWars
·I'm ok with chunky to be honest. I actually like the SMPc bond bracelets. But in regard to the Speedmaster I'm just not a huge fan of the polished mid links blended into the brushed ones. Just my opinion. I'll still rock it, but this was the first watch that I ever bought straps for it immediately and was excited to use.
Tom
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yinzerniner
·I'm ok with chunky to be honest. I actually like the SMPc bond bracelets. But in regard to the Speedmaster I'm just not a huge fan of the polished mid links blended into the brushed ones. Just my opinion. I'll still rock it, but this was the first watch that I ever bought straps for it immediately and was excited to use.
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Fritz
·hesalite vs sapphire..... it like vinyl vs CD, some like one, some like the other.
but there is something about vinyl!!!!
but there is something about vinyl!!!!
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Raffles
·Hi all. Off shopping tomorrow to buy my first speedy. Which model would you buy? Should I go for sapphire glass?
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postman10mm
·I just went through the first half of this journey. Twelve years ago, I was torn between a Seamaster GMT and a Speedmaster. The GMT won and has been worn daily ever since.
Last week I pulled the trigger on a spectacular 3573.50 sapphire sandwich. I struggled with it for two days but just couldn't warm to the sapphire crystal. Now its sold and my search for a 3572.50 or 3570.50 has begun.
Last week I pulled the trigger on a spectacular 3573.50 sapphire sandwich. I struggled with it for two days but just couldn't warm to the sapphire crystal. Now its sold and my search for a 3572.50 or 3570.50 has begun.
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Senorx
·I concur. I just took possession of my first Omega Speedy 3570.50. Purchased from Kringkily. I LOVE the Hesalite. Great post!
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krackpot
·I went through the same decision making process. Initially tried on the sapphire version as I thought I wanted to see the movement and have a more durable front (I'm quite rough with my belongings). It was only after I went into a boutique to try both on that there was no decision to be made anymore. I put the sapphire version down and never considered it again; the hesalite won me in an instant. I have not regretted it since.
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eharriett
·So, I'm a little confused about the hesalite/sapphire history on the Speedmaster pros. I don't own a Speedy, but I'm back on the forums now because I'm about to be in a position where I can get the ones I want. When I looked at the histories, they were hesalite. But when I see some Chrono24 and ebay pics of some of the older, pre-moon Speedies, they have that whiteish edge, indicating sapphire. Did Omega use both?
This seemed like a good place to ask from an Omega virgin trying to learn how to detect frauds.
This seemed like a good place to ask from an Omega virgin trying to learn how to detect frauds.
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yinzerniner
·So, I'm a little confused about the hesalite/sapphire history on the Speedmaster pros. I don't own a Speedy, but I'm back on the forums now because I'm about to be in a position where I can get the ones I want. When I looked at the histories, they were hesalite. But when I see some Chrono24 and ebay pics of some of the older, pre-moon Speedies, they have that whiteish edge, indicating sapphire. Did Omega use both?
This seemed like a good place to ask from an Omega virgin trying to learn how to detect frauds.
Even more confusingly the crystal on the Sapphire Sandwich Speedy doesn't always have the super white milky ring, but rather it's a little less pronounced and barely perceptible.
If you're on the lookout for frauds then just know that the Speedy Sandwich has only been around the last 13 years or so.
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Taddyangle
·I like the hesalite much better. My main issue with the sapphire is that it seems to pick up finger prints and I simply dont care for the AR coating. If I could switch the Speediorite to hesalite I would.
On th AR coating, I have been rubbing it off my PO for last 30 minutes. My finger is sore, but its starting to look nice so much better. The tiny scratches in the AR have been driving me cra-cra.
On th AR coating, I have been rubbing it off my PO for last 30 minutes. My finger is sore, but its starting to look nice so much better. The tiny scratches in the AR have been driving me cra-cra.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAlso the bezel for the Hesalite and Sapphire crystal models are different
This is incorrect - both the 35705000 and 35735000 use the exact same bezel.
Cheers, Al
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yinzerniner
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerSorry, I misspoke. I meant that the bezel crystal installation is different. I forgot the exact process, but the method of which the Sapphire is held in the bezel is different than the Hesalite, so it's not just a simple swap out of the single item as you need to have the correct additional part for the swap.
They can't be swapped...the crystals are different sizes mate:
063PW5139 - GLASS PLEXI BLACK RING D34.13 H5.1
062SL5005 - GLASS SAPPHIRE AG1S MET D34.2 H4.65 + 298EG5189 - CRYSTAL GASKET Ø35 T0.57 H0.85
This whole idea is a bust I'm afraid (barring some cobbled up hack work to make it fit...).
Cheers, Al
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