Help with identification possible 1962 Constellation

Posts
7
Likes
4
Hey everybody!

I inherited this watch from a family member and am trying to get info on it. I've been doing a ton of DD but can't find anything specifically definitive. I'd like to identify the watch and a general value if possible?

I believe it to be a 1962 Constellation Pie Pan with a solid 14k casing. I also have the band that came with it, it's marked 14k but nothing else. I'm not sure if it's original or not?

Thanks for any and all info everyone!

 
Posts
6,464
Likes
10,002
Welcome @DudeInAlaska
Congratulations on your inheritance.
You have a nice 14k 14902 no-date dogleg pie pan Constellation.
Cal 551 chronometer rated movement.
1962 is about right for the production year. (Although it could have been sold in ‘63)

Due to the recent hike in gold prices valuation is difficult as it’s mainly about the gold nowadays.

Edit
The strap is essentially worth it’s weight in gold too.
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
Welcome @DudeInAlaska
Congratulations on your inheritance.
You have a nice 14k 14902 no-date dogleg pie pan Constellation.
Cal 551 chronometer rated movement.
1962 is about right for the production year. (Although it could have been sold in ‘63)

Due to the recent hike in gold prices valuation is difficult as it’s mainly about the gold nowadays.

Edit
The strap is essentially worth it’s weight in gold too.
Geez you guys are fast! That's awesome to hear!

Thanks for the info! I appreciate you taking the time. I've got a couple questions if you don't mind.


Would it be a good idea to keep the band and watch together for value or not a concern? So the value of the watch is just it's weight in gold or the gold price affects the value so it's hard to estimate en total? If that's the case how would one accurately define a value for a sale situation?

I can't find any other examples of this exact watch online but that may be my lack of knowledge. I am not particularly a watch collector or a person who wears a watch so most likely I will be selling it. Nothing against the collection of watches, they are beautiful pieces of art. I just prefer different art to collect 😁
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
Addition: The sale would also be because this watch should be owned by somebody who can really appreciate it and not just spend it's life in a safe.
 
Posts
843
Likes
1,575
Serial number is 1962 but as Peemacgee mentioned it’s not uncommon for them to be sold in years after.

Yours looks lovely. I have a 1962 date version in stainless. Lovely watch mate.
 
Posts
6,464
Likes
10,002
It’s perfectly understandable- vintage watches aren’t for everyone.

The watch is desirable as a 14k gold dogleg pie pan.
The no-date versions sell for a small premium over date versions.
Dogleg Pie pans are on fire right now but the precious metal aspect somewhat negates the ‘trend bump’ in prices.
The dial is really nice, as is the bezel but the lugs aren’t quite as sharp - but still reasonable.

I don’t think the dial is gold - more likely gold-effect.

The watch needs a service (signs of rotor rub) but just leave that to the eventual buyer.

Sell the bracelet separately as it has no Omega DNA and will most likely just be scrapped.

Try recent eBay sold listings for an idea of value - look for 14k 14900 or 14k 167.005 (same watch just renamed after 1963.)

Hope that helps.
 
Posts
6,464
Likes
10,002
This one was in the recommended thread.

Went for $3900.
The Coke attribution may have increased or decreased the final sale price.
But it gives you a good idea of sale value.
Edited:
 
Posts
7,975
Likes
36,139
The watch needs a service (signs of rotor rub) but just leave that to the eventual buyer.
Not to disagree with you as the watch will need a service for sure after many years stored away, but more a question regarding your rotor rub point.

We see a lot of rubbed rotors and always the same advice is given, "rubbed rotor, it will need a service" but is there a way to tell whether the cause of this rub has perhaps already been adressed at an earlier service? I mean We've all had these issues resolved during service but the rubbed rotor remains in place bearing all of its scars in view.

I think possibly @Archer or one of our other watchmakers can hopefully help us here?
 
Posts
6,464
Likes
10,002
Under normal circumstances I’d agree wholeheartedly. (And I’d usually say “if it hasn’t been seen to already….)
In this case, the caseback doesn’t appear to have any watchmaker marks and it still has a contemporaneous yellow gasket.
Either way, if the OP is going to sell then there is no need to service as he won’t recoup the cost.
 
Posts
24,604
Likes
54,639
Regarding the bracelet, I don't think it adds much value to the watch because it doesn't appear to be an Omega bracelet and can't be sized. So it is probably easier to sell it separately, probably to a gold buyer.
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
Hey everybody!

Thank you all for the info I really appreciate it. Nice to consult some folks who know what's going on.

I'm going to work to find a reasonable asking price for the watch and then put it for sale. That being said, if anyone on here is interested let me know! 🙂
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
So based on my research I am going to list the watch for $4,500 OBO.

It's really hard to pin a value down on these but I think that number is reasonable. I might be leaving money on the table and if that's the case I'm ok with it, given the fact that I want the watch to end up with somebody who appreciates it. If it's too high the OBO should take care of that as well.

Thanks for all your help everybody! It was a really cool experience to join a new forum and be welcomed and treated nicely. As we all know online forums are oft toxic, but this one certainly isn't! Kudos!
 
Posts
24,604
Likes
54,639
So based on my research I am going to list the watch for $4,500 OBO.

It's really hard to pin a value down on these but I think that number is reasonable. I might be leaving money on the table and if that's the case I'm ok with it, given the fact that I want the watch to end up with somebody who appreciates it. If it's too high the OBO should take care of that as well.

Thanks for all your help everybody! It was a really cool experience to join a new forum and be welcomed and treated nicely. As we all know online forums are oft toxic, but this one certainly isn't! Kudos!
I assume that's including the bracelet. Out of curiosity, how much does the bracelet weigh?
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
I assume that's including the bracelet. Out of curiosity, how much does the bracelet weigh?

I hadn't even thought about the band honestly. A lot of the ones I see for sale or that sold historically either didn't have them or had simple leather bands, stainless, etc.

I have no way to know what it weighs currently. I'm actually going to scrap it tomorrow.

Not 100% sure what is reasonable or not I figured I'd let the market tell me in terms of the price. I've got a few offers from buy it now services that compell me to not list it too low though because why bother with private sale at that point. Those offers are also not based on it coming with a band.

Edit: Dan, that's not to say I'm not open to advice on what might be more reasonable, etc.! It's just really hard to price something that I'm totally new to.
 
Posts
24,604
Likes
54,639
OK, so you're asking $4500 USD for the 14k Constellation, head only. Got it.

It's not a crazy price. These references are very hot right now, although gold has been dropping. GLWS. 👍
 
Posts
7
Likes
4
OK, so you're asking $4500 USD for the 14k Constellation, head only. Got it.

It's not a crazy price. These references are very hot right now, although gold has been dropping. GLWS. 👍

That would be accurate. Thanks for the vernacular!