HELP! Omega 2597-2?? Opinions and tips!

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Jvela2329

·Jun 2, 2022

Hello there, new over here but really happy with all the information available on the forums to know a little bit more about this amazings watchs,

Today I'm looking for some help with this watch BEFORE making the purchase because I'm not that sure about if its authentic or if the dial is the original of a 2597-2.

I'm not an expert but looking for info here and some photos online the Seamaster engraving looks a little bit shaddy hahahaha.
Beside that I thing that the mechanism (dirty and with a poor service as is show in the photo) and the crown look pretty good to me but all the opinions and tips would be accepted thankfully

and as a final question, would you purchase for it as an ORIGINAL PIECE? and a piece with worth for a colecction (would be the first of it).

 

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BlackTalon

·Jun 2, 2022·This Space for Rent

Looks like whoever took the photos ran them through some IG filter. The minute track looks like a preschool art project with unlimited Sharpies at the disposal of the kids. Case is polished to within an inch of its life. And the movement has been through Hell and didn't make it back; likely why the dial work was undertaken.

But I am not an expert on these. Hopefully one of the knowledgeable members will be along shortly.

 

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Dan S

·Jun 2, 2022

Repainted dial, horrible case, mismatched and broken hands, tired movement, it's a disaster.

 

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cvalue13

·Jun 2, 2022

Dan S

mismatched and broken hands

looks like someone made a new minute hand

 

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SkunkPrince

·Jun 2, 2022

Ew. In case it wasn't obvious, run screaming.

 

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UncleBuck

·Jun 2, 2022·understands the decision making hierarchy

Jvela2329

Today I'm looking for some help with this watch BEFORE making the purchase

Great instincts, saved you a huuuuuge newbie tax.
Determine your taste and allow the world class collectors here to help.

 

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mrbreen

·Jun 2, 2022

Since no one else has mentioned this, do read through this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

And welcome to the forum!

 

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Davidt

·Jun 3, 2022

That watch is an utter dog. Don’t buy it.

 

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JimInOz

·Jun 3, 2022·Melbourne Australia

The good.

You asked before buying.

The bad.

The fact that you were even considering this as a collectable.

The Ugly.

That tired, abused, over polished, re-dialed watch.

 

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JimInOz

·Jun 3, 2022·Melbourne Australia

mrbreen

Since no one else has mentioned this, do read through this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/

And welcome to the forum!

I can't emphasise enough the importance of familiarising yourself with your target watch. Find a model that you like and research/study/learn all about it.

In 6 months time you should be comfortable in finding a candidate and submitting it for ΩF approval.

 

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Jvela2329

·Jun 3, 2022

JimInOz

The good.

You asked before buying.

The bad.

The fact that you were even considering this as a collectable.

The Ugly.

That tired, abused, over polished, re-dialed watch.

sorry about the bad, maybe its the exciting of finding that first piece, but believe me that I will learn. I’m really looking for a 165.002 as a target, any recomendations on a first omega??

 

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JimInOz

·Jun 3, 2022·Melbourne Australia

165.002 is a good choice, be aware of the size though.

Another good starter is the Genèves in the XXX.041 style case.

One here, but it will go high I'd say.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/rec...-only-on-ebay-not-for-inquiries.1790/page-299

 

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Davidt

·Jun 3, 2022

166.002/165.002 are good refs for a first or only vintage Omega. The third number being a 6 denotes a model with date or 5 being without date.

Seamaster De Villes are also good, ref 166.020 or 165.020.

Seamaster 600’s are manual wind but also good starter watches. Ref 136.011 or 135.011.

Reasons for suggesting the above as a first vintage Omega are;

They’re fairly common so you shouldn’t have to look too long before finding a suitable example.
They’re reasonably water resistant so it shouldn’t be too hard to find one without water damage to the dial and movement.
They’re generally reasonably priced.
They utilise some of the best and most robust Omega movements so servicing and spares availability is good.
They often come in a variety of dial types to keep things interesting.

 

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Dr No

·Jun 3, 2022

This is what a ref 2597 should look like:

It's an uncommon and, in my opinion, desirable reference.

Art

 

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TexOmega

·Jun 3, 2022

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