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  1. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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    Hi brain trust,

    Hoping I can turn to you for some help! Have a beautiful 1961 gold Seamaster, I have always worn it on a strap but I’m interested in sourcing a BOR. Threw out a WTB thread, but with the help of some amazing members realizing I need to get more information to get more specific on what bracelet and end links will work for this particular watch. Attaching pictures below, it’s a Ross case made for the American market, reference number LL6590-1

    I can confirm the lug width is 18mm. Was thinking that would be a 1037 with maybe 513 or 564 end links, but not sure.

    Any and all help is greatly appreciated!


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  2. Davidt Jan 4, 2022

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    If it was a steel version the end links would be 70 or 570. I don’t know if it’s the same reference numbers for gold?
     
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  3. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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    Thanks for the info. Yeah, that’s the tricky part, I would imagine it’s the same for gold, but being a Ross made case…
     
  4. TexOmega Jan 4, 2022

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    American Market were in inches, double check width, might be a bit less than 18mm.

    metal not as forgiving as leather
     
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  5. Davidt Jan 4, 2022

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    The lugs tops look slightly more basic than the Swiss version but the caseback and reverse of the lugs seems comparable. Obviously the only real way to tell is to try a pair, unless you can find a picture of the same case with a well fitting bracelet or another member has one.
     
  6. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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    Thanks, will triple check
     
  7. SkunkPrince Jan 4, 2022

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    11/16" or 17.25mm.
     
  8. MtV Jan 4, 2022

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    Just found this video:



    According to the OE, lug width is 18mm, in which case I'm with @Davidt that 70 or 570 should work fine. It's a little detail, but I think the 570s are a little longer than the 70s? Possibly depends on the manufacturer, but I've found the shorter 70s fit a little better
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    I could only try on another SMDV I have here though, no US-ref LL6590 pre-DeVille.

    The good thing is: 1503/70s were produced in masses and are used on many refs, also the prices are pretty stable. Find one for ok money and give it a try - if it really doesn't fit because the case does end up being slightly different, you'll sell it without loss.
     
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  9. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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    You are a gentleman and a scholar, Matt, thank you!
     
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  10. janice&fred Jan 4, 2022

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    yea i seen that thread of yours. what you fail to realize is I already posted the same WTB thread before you so if there's any gold filled/plated thingies available I deserve it much more than you because I'm special. my mom told me.
     
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  11. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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    I’d say may the best man win, but the fact that you’re giving away free bumps to my thread…
     
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  12. janice&fred Jan 4, 2022

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    today just ain't my day.
     
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  13. sleepyastronaut Jan 4, 2022

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    Confirming this should work.

    My LL6590-1 (17.8mm):
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    My #70s (17.8mm):
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  14. sleepyastronaut Jan 4, 2022

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  15. janice&fred Jan 4, 2022

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    the fit looks great. now all ya need is a rattle-can of gold spray paint and yer all set. :D
     
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  16. rkman11 Jan 4, 2022

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  17. MtV Jan 4, 2022

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  18. sleepyastronaut Jan 4, 2022

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    If only it were that easy.

    I've read Omega still sells the 5-Row BOR as part 3010/511.

    My dealer couldn't locate a clasic 7-Row, but he can get the 1980s version of the 7-Row, which has a different clasp; part 1444/800.
     
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  19. rkman11 Jan 21, 2022

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    Swinging back around on this, anyone know how 22 endlinks compare to 70s?