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Help identify pusher required for Speedy please!

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Hi,
I've lost a pusher for one my favourite watches. It's a Cal 321 and the movement dates to around 1966
Not sure which one to purchase as the watch has a service back (also dial and bezel) as far as I know. The ref inside is 145 012 - SP
I don't want to order the wrong one and I think it could be a 105.012 or 145.012 ?
Approx size of the pusher is 5mm x 3mm and pretty sure it's a screw in type.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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RyMoeller
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Are you certain it's a 321? The dial looks like the 861 dial which I don't believe will fit the older movement.

There are a few different types of pushers depending on the case type (that's where the proper reference number comes in); the older Speedies had pushers that were pushed in while the newer (~145.012/145.022) ones had screw in pushers. Taking a guess, I think the correct part number for yours is 086ST0001 although your best bet would be to get a watchmaker to confirm the case reference.
 
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I think it's 086ST0007. A few are listed on EBay. Very common pusher
 
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RyMoeller RyMoeller
Are you certain it's a 321? The dial looks like the 861 dial which I don't believe will fit the older movement.

There are a few different types of pushers depending on the case type (that's where the proper reference number comes in); the older Speedies had pushers that were pushed in while the newer (~145.012/145.022) ones had screw in pushers. Taking a guess, I think the correct part number for yours is 086ST0001 although your best bet would be to get a watchmaker to confirm the case reference.
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Thanks RyMoeller, yes it's a 321 Pretty sure it's a very early service dial.
 
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The movement serial points to a 105.012. what does the caseback inner side say?
 
Foo2rama
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76 and later dial to early 80's I believe. Bezel appears to be a replacement from the same era.

That is not a service dial it's a 861 dial modified for a 321.
 
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mr_yossarian mr_yossarian
The movement serial points to a 105.012. what does the caseback inner side say?
This is the key question. However the OP says the case ref is 145.012-sp and the size of his existing pusher points to that being correct, but with a mismatched serial number, replaced dial and bezel etc... this could be an amalgamation of parts so the only way to be certain of getting the correct pusher is to remove the remains of the old one and check that it is screw-in type and take accurate measurements. Most likely either the 0007 as Gemini4 says or the 0059. They have differing head dimensions and different overall lengths.
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Dash1 Ash
This is the key question. However the OP says the case ref is 145.012-sp and the size of his existing pusher points to that being correct, but with a mismatched serial number, replaced dial and bezel etc... this could be an amalgamation of parts so the only way to be certain of getting the correct pusher is to remove the remains of the old one and check that it is screw-in type and take accurate measurements. Most likely either the 0007 as Gemini4 says or the 0059. Both are screw in thread with same head dimensions but differering stem lengths.
Thank you.
Guessed it was going to be an headache!
 
Foo2rama
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SP stand for Special Poussiant or something like that. It means a higher waterproof variant of the case. SP should be present on certain references. It doesn't really have much meaning. I think it was basically a change theymade to the caseback at some point.
 
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Thanks RyMoeller, yes it's a 321 Pretty sure it's a very early service dial.


Ah yes, just like you said- that is certainly a 321 which, for what it's worth, I think is a more beautiful movement than a Rolex 722.

I'll bow out of this discussion now as I'm clearly in over my head! 😗
 
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