Help buying a vintage Omega

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Hi guys!

Im new to this forum, i have no experience with vintage watches at all.
But lately iv'e been searching around on the internet looking for one.

I have found the look of the watch i really like and i need to help to be sure that this is not a fake watch.

There are two different watches I have been looking at lately:
A 2505 and a 2609 Both are what they call "oversized" (37 and 38 mm)

The two first pictures are the 2505

The three next is the 2609

After what alot of searching online I think they both seem legit. But then again I have no clue what to look for other than comparing pictures.

Hopefully some of you experts can help me out here, and maybe give me an advice of which one i should go for ?

 

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Geo!

·Apr 16, 2015

They are both genuine Omega watches, but the dial on the first one looks like it has been touched freehand. Look carefully at the minute markers! the second dial I think is OK, but some of the more highly tuned on the forum may say otherwise.

 

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Yeah, i can see what you mean. The guy who is selling tells me that watch have recently been overhauled and that included the dial.
Im not sure if the dial is original anymore, i dont think the numbers should be all around. More like the dial on the secound one?

 

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Anyone else with some info or tips ? much appreciated 😀

Edited: Apr 16, 2015

 

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gatorcpa

·Apr 16, 2015·ΩF InvestiGator

First watch has a rather crude redial as previously noted, but crown looks correct.

Second watch has original dial, (IMO) ugly patina, wrong crown and has had the edges polished off the case.

Second one is salvageable, but you need to buy it cheap. You will need to invest in a proper service and a new crown. Possibly an original Omega signed crystal also.

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Thanks for the reply!
I do have the original dial for the first one. But it needs some real work to look great again..

 

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gatorcpa

·Apr 16, 2015·ΩF InvestiGator

Jammis

Thanks for the reply!
I do have the original dial for the first one. But it needs some real work to look great again..

I'm not following you at all. Do you already own the first watch?

Dial is worthless in present condition. It would need to be redone properly. Problem is that I know of no one who can accurately refinish Omega dials. There were so many variations, it's almost impossible to have all the dies.

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

I dont own any of the watches, im considering buying one of them.
The guy selling the first watch tells me that he have the original dial.

But now im not sure anymore if i should buy any of them..

Jammis

 

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gatorcpa

·Apr 16, 2015·ΩF InvestiGator

Second one could be nice is price is less than $300. It's going to need some work.
gatorcpa

 

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Okei, im discussing price with him. I know im a little bit off topic. but what would you recommend doing with it if I would end up buying the second watch.

I do agree the patina isnt the nicest looking..

 

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gatorcpa

·Apr 16, 2015·ΩF InvestiGator

Have it inspected by a watchmaker to see if service is required. Do not let him touch the dial or case. You likely will make it worse.

If he can research and obtain the crown and crystal, do it.

That's about all you can do.
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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

Thanks for all the response!

I think the hunt will continue for now..

 

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JohnWT

·Apr 16, 2015

When buying your first vintage watch, my advice would be to go for something that doesn't need any work done on it, as that can be a lot of hassle. I'd keep looking on Ebay, as there are hundreds of affordable Omegas in decent condition on there.

 

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cicindela

·Apr 16, 2015·Steve @ ΩF

I would not buy ANY watches from that seller.

 

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Jammis

·Apr 16, 2015

cicindela

I would not buy ANY watches from that seller.

That's abit random..
Why not if I could ask? 😀

 

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cicindela

·Apr 16, 2015·Steve @ ΩF

Very simply, he is trying to sell you crap watches.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/condition-condition-condition-and-other-pieces-of-advice.1716/

 

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Hijak

·Apr 16, 2015

cicindela

I would not buy ANY watches from that seller.

I completely agree! Honestly your best bet would be to pass on both of these.