Thats a nice watch! but.... I think that is too patina-ed for my liking. I understand that if i wanted a real collector watch it would be something in that condition, or probably way more patina.. and i probably will eventually start having a liking for watches like that. I guess i will learn the hard way haha. for my first way I guess I would start out with something a little more refurbished, which basically looks pretty new.? :x no offence to anyone here intended at all.