Has the watch collecting hobby been tarnished by money?

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Mmmmmm...tarnish...

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...looks an awful lot like the patina collectors throw huge money at to me... 😁
 
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“We are thrilled to see our projects continue to be appreciated on the global stage, and are proud to tell all clients of our limited editions that they represent great, long-term value, as proven by this result.”


Hmmmmm ::stirthepot::

And the Hodinkee hype machine chugs on...
 
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I totally agree that it's a shame when things like vintage watches are preyed upon by people looking purely just for profit, and some of the structure of ADs now have really ruined the market... like the fact that, if you want to get a daytona or a pepsi gmt, you basically have to pay double RRP and give your profits to some random rich dude

However - I think it's worth pointing out that the rise in vintage watch prices and mid-range retail prices is directly related to rise in popularity. There is exponentially more material and mainstream interest in watches, particular vintage watches, in the last 4-5 years. The growth of forums like this one, leads to growth in demand, therefore increases in prices. You can't really have one without the other - and tbh I don't think it necessarily has to be all doom and gloom.

Yes this hobby was simpler when prices were 5-10x lower for vintage rolex now versus 5 years ago, but post and getting involved in the internet community here directly contributes to pushing this hobby along, getting more people interested, and therefore increasing demand and therefore prices dramatically. I think it's worth considering what you've potentially personally done to push this hobby along - do you lament that? I think try and enjoy it the best you can in the circumstances!
 
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“We are thrilled to see our projects continue to be appreciated on the global stage, and are proud to tell all clients of our limited editions that they represent great, long-term value, as proven by this result.”


Hmmmmm ::stirthepot::

From the first time I saw / read this Hodinkee announcement, it instantly didn't sit well with me. I can't really fully articulate it. But there's something wrong about the whole thing - how they can brazenly trump their own product and how expensive it fetched. Is it just me?
 
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Sky high prices of hard to get watches has been on the rise for some time, personally I won't pay over retail for anything so thankfully I'm out of that race.
 
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From the first time I saw / read this Hodinkee announcement, it instantly didn't sit well with me. I can't really fully articulate it. But there's something wrong about the whole thing - how they can brazenly trump their own product and how expensive it fetched. Is it just me?
Exactly ... I guess so far, what they say is true - it just seems a curious way of drawing attention to it , and the shift from ‘buy it because you like it’ to ‘this is an investment’ might be an invitation for trouble.
 
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From the first time I saw / read this Hodinkee announcement, it instantly didn't sit well with me. I can't really fully articulate it. But there's something wrong about the whole thing - how they can brazenly trump their own product and how expensive it fetched. Is it just me?

What might be bothering you is the double-role that Hodinkee is playing as both a media-outlet (e.g. blogs and reviews) and also a retailer.
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What might be bothering you is the double-role that Hodinkee is playing as both a media-outlet (e.g. blogs and reviews) and also a retailer.
I believe that is what is called a “lifestyle brand.”
 
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Keeping up with the Hodinkians
I don't understand it. Their butts are far too big,. Not attractive. And they mainly sell watches to pro basketball players.
 
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I don't understand it. Their butts are far too big,. Not attractive. And they mainly sell watches to pro basketball players.
Hodinkee or Kardashian?
 
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Sorry, it was a play on Kardahians/ Hodinkians...
 
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Watch (pun intended) what you wish for. It is a lot easier to love a vintage piece worth 10k than the same watch for 2k.
So yea, the good old days were good, but does anyone really want to see the vintage watch market return to days of low prices and little mass interest?
 
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It is a lot easier to love a vintage piece worth 10k than the same watch for 2k.

No, quite the opposite in fact. I completely tune out when it's north of 5k. I can't enjoy wearing something worth 10k on my wrist, and it only worth 10k if it is in good original condition. (so forget getting it waterproofed by changing the crown and the plexi if it is a vintage for example).

So, no vintage straight lug speedy for me.
 
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No, quite the opposite in fact. I completely tune out when it's north of 5k. I can't enjoy wearing something worth 10k on my wrist, and it only worth 10k if it is in good original condition. (so forget getting it waterproofed by changing the crown and the plexi if it is a vintage for example).

So, no vintage straight lug speedy for me.[/QU

I think most of us feel better when our watches are worth more, rather than less. My point is really that there are a host of new problems that arise in a strong vintage watch market, but there are plenty of problems in a weak one also.
 
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Has the watch collecting hobby been tarnished by money? 😕........ 'Fakkin well' hope so mate! 😁
 
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You need money to collect watches (but not a lot to get started). For many collectors it's the 'thrill of the chase' in finding something nice, regardless whether it's cheap or not. I've found some beautiful watches which on the face of it were not appealing to others, especially the much older ones that are not around any more. It's great to get them fixed up and brought back to life, so that a new generation can appreciate them.

The example below was one where folks turned their noses up at, but I realised that it could be a bit special from the initial photo. After a dab hand and a service from my gifted watchmaker, it doesn't fail to impress with that flawless black glossy dial. Keep hunting. 😀
 
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True. I guess it depends though.

While I do agree that collecting obscure brands is fun and affordable (eg. my ongoing obsession with JMWTO's), it can be frustrating if one wishes to buy a watch one likes, only to find to one's dismay that the value is going up inexorably or rocketing up suddenly. Eg. A386, vintage Sub, a nice 1675.

Some of the price increase in part of the general trend (eg. vintage SS rolexes), but some of it is unexpected (at least to me) and fairly sudden (eg. prices of the GP 9075-AF Olimpico). So it can be frustrating to see something double in price within a year, especially when it seems that it's part of a general increased awareness of certain vintage watches which was triggered by crazy prices at the top end of the vintage market.

I like your description of the top end of the market as being full of s**t. Fortunately I don't (and can't afford to) swim there, but like you, even from a mile away, I still have to hold my breath too 😁

Now does anyone have a nice crispy GP 9075-AF Olimpico to sell for $5000? Please contact me...😗

I have a nice crispy Excelsior Park version of the Olimpico 1968 Mexico Olympics. It has got to be one of the nicest looking watches ever made. (IMHO) 😀