Hard choice: Speedmaster 60th LE or Speedmaster Speedy Tuesday LE?

speedolex

First off, so I'm not misunderstood, let me state publicly that I like the Speedy Tuesday and the only reason I'm even being remotely critical is because of your opinion of the 60 which makes no sense to me. With that asterisk out of the way...

Let us perhaps agree that both watches are "gimmicks" since that's the word that's causing angst. Here's the definition:

gim·mick ˈɡimik/ noun

a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
synonyms: publicity stunt, contrivance, scheme, stratagem, ploy;

"the trivia contest was a gimmick to sell more newspapers"

So, since Omega's objective is to sell more Speedmasters and both the ST via its colors and the 60 via its nostalgia are "intended to attract attention, publicity, or business" to an otherwise old/tired wristwatch let us agree that both are gimmicks but both look great.

STANDY

If your talking as you have given us the Dictionary meaning for Gimmick

Calling the Daytona a Paul Newman is the biggest gimmick in this thread......

Just saying 😗

Riviera Paradise

Hey Standy...just when they were making up you throw this curve ball ??

Are you in need of a quick adrenalin rush?....Any particular motive for you to want to shoot down the lovely fluffy white dove of peace?😁

nima0071

N1CK

Know it's dangerous when I think... however the more I do the less I see the appeal in the 57 replica speedy.

It's whole appeal is that it's a faithful replica of the original. I get that, however the original speedmaster with the broad arrow hands and metal bezel didn't last long principally because nobody liked how it looked.

After the metal bezel and broad arrow hands were ditched the Speedmaster then became popular, and then it's space race link blasted it into the stratosphere and beyond (literally!). Only retrospectively did the 2915 become popular because of its significance within the history of the speedmaster family (not because of its looks).

So yes this new watch is a faithful replica for the most part, but I just don't get why anyone would want it. It's a fairly large scale replica of a watch that was unpopular but is only now popular due to its scarcity and its link as the predecessor to more storied and better looking ancestors.

It's kinda like wanting a poor Verrocchio because he trained Da Vinci.

N1CK

Know it's dangerous when I think... however the more I do the less I see the appeal in the 57 replica speedy.

It's whole appeal is that it's a faithful replica of the original. I get that, however the original speedmaster with the broad arrow hands and metal bezel didn't last long principally because nobody liked how it looked.

After the metal bezel and broad arrow hands were ditched the Speedmaster then became popular, and then it's space race link blasted it into the stratosphere and beyond (literally!). Only retrospectively did the 2915 become popular because of its significance within the history of the speedmaster family (not because of its looks).

So yes this new watch is a faithful replica for the most part, but I just don't get why anyone would want it. It's a fairly large scale replica of a watch that was unpopular but is only now popular due to its scarcity and its link as the predecessor to more storied and better looking ancestors.

It's kinda like wanting a poor Verrocchio because he trained Da Vinci.

N1CK

It's whole appeal is that it's a faithful replica of the original. I get that, however the original speedmaster with the broad arrow hands and metal bezel didn't last long principally because nobody liked how it looked.

speedolex

The CK2915 wasn't redesigned because of its looks but because the bezel and arrow hands were hard to see. I'm no racer, so the bezel is nothing more than technical eye candy to me, but the mirror-polish on the hands are tricky in many lighting conditions. Because the hands reflect to your eyes whatever it is they are pointed at, if your watch is pointed at your hair or your shirt it reflects that off the hands and they disappear against the bezel.

speedolex

Good post, my thoughts:

When one has a stock-standard Speedmaster Professional that's it, that's the end of the line, you've got the "moonwatch" and you're done. You can talk to me until the cows come home about panda dials, dials with little pictures of Mars on them, silly cartoon dials with Charlie Brown's dog on it, that's nothing special, that's the same ol' Speedmaster we've known since 1965 with a fresh coat of paint or a decal. And for purists, that's blasphemy. I wouldn't be caught dead with one of those.

So if you're someone who has that stock Speedy Pro and no other Speedmaster has been acceptable or necessary enough to encourage you to buy a second model, you are bored. Very bored. You change the strap. You change the bracelet. You buy a few Rolexes. Some of you have had your itch scratched with these NASA editions or Schumacher editions, but not the rest of us who have had no other Omega product except our trusty moonwatch for 20, 30, or 40 years.

And that's where the '57 comes in. It's very different than the stock moonwatch. It's completely retro. And it has those drop-dead arrow hands, and that thin case, and that gorgeous bracelet. It's not painted white subdials or a goofy Snoopy sticker. It's a whole new watch. And it's a whole new watch that you already admire and that has that historic connection to the moonwatch you already own. That's the magic of the 60. Some of us have been waiting a long, long time for this.

Riviera Paradise

Shock / blasphemy...I do not particularly care for the standard Speedy Pro from an aesthetic POV😲. To be frank, I find it a bit boring to look at, especially on a SS bracelet. In fact I prefer the current FOIS model from a pure design aesthetic. I would also add that I could not give a flying intercourse event as to whether that is considered silly / ridiculous/ offensive by the "purists". I respect a "purist" stating that his personal preference is for the original untouched design...but again (another fluffy white dove moment)...why ridicule the LEs?

speedolex

A "purist" views the Speedmaster as a piece of living NASA history and the watch worn should be what the astronauts themselves wore, not some lame attempt at an Ingersoll Mickey Mouse watch with Charlie Brown's dog on it. Had NASA never chosen the Speedmaster, this wouldn't be a watch many care about at all. There aren't many Omega fans, there aren't many chronograph fans, there are however millions of NASA fans. This is the Apollo Moonwatch, authentic NASA equipment. Who the manufacturer is is of little consequence.

Now, if someone is one of the rare people who love Omega as a brand and view a chronograph as a must-have, I can see why they get all excited about some reverse panda, or a photo of Mars, checkered flags, or a stencil of Snoopy but that's not a Moonwatch. That's an Omega chronograph with a funky design point of view. No different than if Sinn took a 103 and came out with a limited edition with pink glitter paint; a niche special edition of a niche watch with no historical significance.

I don't ridicule the LE's, but if someone is going to say that the 60th Anniversary CK2915 is some gimmick, well, it's not and I have to defend it. Compared to what Omega has been doing for decades with weird Speedmaster derivatives, it's quite authentic.

speedolex

A "purist" views the Speedmaster as a piece of living NASA history and the watch worn should be what the astronauts themselves wore, not some lame attempt at an Ingersoll Mickey Mouse watch with Charlie Brown's dog on it. Had NASA never chosen the Speedmaster, this wouldn't be a watch many care about at all. There aren't many Omega fans, there aren't many chronograph fans, there are however millions of NASA fans. This is the Apollo Moonwatch, authentic NASA equipment. Who the manufacturer is is of little consequence.

Now, if someone is one of the rare people who love Omega as a brand and view a chronograph as a must-have, I can see why they get all excited about some reverse panda, or a photo of Mars, checkered flags, or a stencil of Snoopy but that's not a Moonwatch. That's an Omega chronograph with a funky design point of view. No different than if Sinn took a 103 and came out with a limited edition with pink glitter paint; a niche special edition of a niche watch with no historical significance.

I don't ridicule the LE's, but if someone is going to say that the 60th Anniversary CK2915 is some gimmick, well, it's not and I have to defend it. Compared to what Omega has been doing for decades with weird Speedmaster derivatives, it's quite authentic.

Archer

Starting to get the impression you may not be a fan of the Snoopy Speedmasters....am I right? 😉

Riviera Paradise

1. I thought we had got over the "gimmick" discussion🙄. FTR I certainly do not consider the Speedy 60th or Speedy Tuesday to be gimmicks.

I sincerely wish you all the best with your 60th anniversary Speedy and I am sure that it will bring you much joy / excitement as soon as you open the Omega case👍

Can we move on?😀