Guidance for Audio Set-up Wanted

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Hi

Don’t want to hijack this thread but I do have a couple of Sonos using some streaming but way more occasionally than I want too as I’m used to play my cds. And my denon cd player ended up dying after 25 years of great service and multiple moving in and out and I never got myself to transfer all my cds to my computer.
Do you guys know if I can easily add/connect à CD player to the Sonos ? In this case I should buy one.
And/Or maybe I should fully step up in the new world and finish completing my set up with more Sonos all over the house… and get use to streaming…

Oh and to the OP question, I am not qualified as you can see but I can confirm that Sonos works great and is effectively easy to use /set up with streaming and my experience with Denon is clearly of exceptional quality and durability.
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Another vote for Sonos here. We use Soundbars, and have a surround setup for the main TV. But, even without separate speakers, the Soundbar IMO gives excellent "surround' simulation.

In our experience, their products are easy to set up, work/sound very good and are fully compatible with Alexa, Apple, and Google.
 
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Do you guys know if I can easily add/connect à CD player to the Sonos ? In this case I should buy one.

I believe what you’d need is the Sonos “Port.”

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/port

It’s not cheap, and I think intended to make sense cost-wise when someone has a Sonos ecosystem already and want to connect it to an existing analogue receiver/system, to essentially convert that existing analogue system to being a Sonos-controllable extension.

For example, I have a Port connected to my vinyl receiver, which receiver runs two stand-alone passive analogue speakers in my office. So long as I manually turn on the receiver and have the appropriate input selected on the receiver, the Port then makes that analogue system an extension of the Sonos ecosystem and allows me to either:

(1) play a vinyl album on that receiver, and extend that music to play wirelessly on any (or all) of the Sonos speakers located elsewhere throughout my house/outdoors (as well as on the passive speakers), or

(2) play streamable music to sonos generally, and make “selectable” the ability to also play the streaming music through the receiver and passive analogue speakers.
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Hi

Don’t want to hijack this thread but I do have a couple of Sonos using some streaming but way more occasionally than I want too as I’m used to play my cds. And my denon cd player ended up dying after 25 years of great service and multiple moving in and out and I never got myself to transfer all my cds to my computer.
Do you guys know if I can easily add/connect à CD player to the Sonos ? In this case I should buy one.
And/Or maybe I should fully step up in the new world and finish completing my set up with more Sonos all over the house… and get use to streaming…

Oh and to the OP question, I am not qualified as you can see but I can confirm that Sonos works great and is effectively easy to use /set up with streaming and my experience with Denon is clearly of exceptional quality and durability.

The older Sonos units had a single line in on the main unit. Set up a system for a friend and used the amped unit so we could use it with his bookshelf speakers. I used that with a Project phono stage to set up a whole house system for him and he wanted to keep his vinyl in his study but play it throughout the house. His wife loved Spotify- so it gave them the best of both worlds and we wired the amped unit to his existing in-wall wiring (using a speaker selector box which regulates the load) and satellite Sonos speakers in other rooms.

You just select the line input on the app. Not sure if the newer units did away with the line I put or not.
 
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I am not looking to keep the old amplifier as it is too cumbersome and has some other issues. I have a standard CD player and an entry level turntable of which I intend to keep the turntable and, if possible, get an amplifier with an integrated CD player and get rid of the external player to slim down the profile. I would really like to find a system that would cover all the bases within a single unit.




I had a look at Denon and I would say that the Denon CEOL N11DAB could probably be what I was looking for. We have a dealer locally who I will probably go to one of these days... Thanks!




You are overestimating my budget by a bit, but thanks for the suggestion 😁

looks like you already made up your mind & I am late to this party.

I did more along the lines of @JwRosenthal -- used a Vizio soundbar for the TV. it has Bluetooth & I can stream my music to this soundbar. Otherwise i use it for movie soundtracks.

For music I bought this from an Austin, Texas based company called AudioEngine: it's called B-Fi. you connect it your wireless network. you can have multiple in your dwelling & give them different names. When you are in the area, you just select that particular B-Fi & your music streams to that music system.

I've a 1982 Yamaha PC-2002M connected to a 1978 Yamaha C-2A preamp. So, these beautiful sounding vintage pieces are brought into the 21st century by this little B-Fi unit. it is 3 inch X 3 inch X 2 inch.
 
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Point well made, though at the risk of being a wet blanket or stating the obvious, the key distinction: as CDs continue to lose market, these electronics companies sometimes simply stop making or stop selling parts for these CD units, and there’s not a remotely vibrant secondary parts market, so the CD units can become a “poison pill” to the all-in-one unit.

I have a rather high end CD player that for 8 years has been a very expensive door stop. (I can’t bring myself to throw it out, despite knowing it will never again operate.)

Not to say there’s *no* rationale for a all-in-one receiver etc with CD built in (that’s why they still make them) and yours sounds like a situation preferring one, but only to note the possible downside consideration.

I also have a really expensive CDP that is working but does skip tracks reasonably often. I sent it in for repairs which cost me a pretty penny but I love this CDP. It's in a box right now as i dismantled & sold off my audiophile setup. But I got insulting offers for my CDP so I held onto it.
My CDP uses the VRDS system from TEAC & they refuse to sell replacements to the public since they use them in own Esoteric brand CDP.
 
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I also have a really expensive CDP that is working but does skip tracks reasonably often. I sent it in for repairs which cost me a pretty penny but I love this CDP. It's in a box right now as i dismantled & sold off my audiophile setup. But I got insulting offers for my CDP so I held onto it.
My CDP uses the VRDS system from TEAC & they refuse to sell replacements to the public since they use them in own Esoteric brand CDP.
I find that surprising as Teac/Tascam was always fabulous on the pro-audio side for parts and service. They are one of the few companies that continues to support their analog pro-audio gear from 40 years ago (like the venerable 122 MkII cassette deck).
 
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I have a rather high end CD player that for 8 years has been a very expensive door stop. (I can’t bring myself to throw it out, despite knowing it will never again operate.)

Don’t tell me: a Rega Apollo? There’s $1400 I’ll never get back.

I kept all my CDs and (vinyl) and wanted a reliable CDP for my 2 channel mid-fi system (Pro-ject TT, Rega Mira amp and B&W 603-S3). I landed on the Marantz 6006 a couple of years ago. Love it.
 
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Don’t tell me: a Rega Apollo? There’s $1400 I’ll never get back.

Worse: Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista SACD player, released 2003. I bought it second-hand, so luckily didn’t pay anywhere near the original $6,500 MSRP. When the transporter conked out circa 2014, it didn’t take much googling to learn that it was a common failure and all owners had learned the same thing: no fix/parts for the system.

i might have known better than to trust a British company with electronics. (*Glances at photo of my old Austin Healy Sprite*)
 
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Worse: Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista SACD player, released 2003. I bought it second-hand, so luckily didn’t pay anywhere near the original $6,500 MSRP. When the transporter conked out circa 2014, it didn’t take much googling to learn that it was a common failure and all owners had learned the same thing: no fix/parts for the system.

i might have known better than to trust a British company with electronics. (*Glances at photo of my old Austin Healy Sprite*)

Hahahaha! I feel much better knowing I only lost $1400!

With the exception of the Apollo, which was likewise the source of much owner resentment due to inherent flaws, I do like some British electronics companies. B&W is a company I will forever support. If I had a bigger home with a dedicated media room, I’d scoop the aforementioned Panorama 3 sound bar in a heartbeat.
 
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Hahahaha! I feel much better knowing I only lost $1400!

Jokes aside, the MF SACD player was just one of many players and dozens of companies that got burned by Phillips producing a faulty transport chipset, then Phillips decided to abandon any effort for replacement or service parts.

I still have and love the MF Tri-Vista receiver and amp, and have never had a problem with them.

I also loved my Austin Healy. 👍
 
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I believe what you’d need is the Sonos “Port.”

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/port

It’s not cheap, and I think intended to make sense cost-wise when someone has a Sonos ecosystem already and want to connect it to an existing analogue receiver/system, to essentially convert that existing analogue system to being a Sonos-controllable extension.

For example, I have a Port connected to my vinyl receiver, which receiver runs two stand-alone passive analogue speakers in my office. So long as I manually turn on the receiver and have the appropriate input selected on the receiver, the Port then makes that analogue system an extension of the Sonos ecosystem and allows me to either:

(1) play a vinyl album on that receiver, and extend that music to play wirelessly on any (or all) of the Sonos speakers located elsewhere throughout my house/outdoors (as well as on the passive speakers), or

(2) play streamable music to sonos generally, and make “selectable” the ability to also play the streaming music through the receiver and passive analogue speakers.
Thanks a lot. Like the idea of it.
I’m really useless on this but I guess that if I was to invest on this port and new CD player I should perhaps link it with the marrantz ampli that I use for my home cinema ?
I’ll investigate this road.
 
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The older Sonos units had a single line in on the main unit. Set up a system for a friend and used the amped unit so we could use it with his bookshelf speakers. I used that with a Project phono stage to set up a whole house system for him and he wanted to keep his vinyl in his study but play it throughout the house. His wife loved Spotify- so it gave them the best of both worlds and we wired the amped unit to his existing in-wall wiring (using a speaker selector box which regulates the load) and satellite Sonos speakers in other rooms.

You just select the line input on the app. Not sure if the newer units did away with the line I put or not.
Thanks too !
Another road to look at. I guess I have the older version of Sonos as I bought that quite a long time ago.
A good thing to know there is a way to keep using my cds. Best of both world for me then.
 
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Worse: Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista SACD player, released 2003. I bought it second-hand, so luckily didn’t pay anywhere near the original $6,500 MSRP. When the transporter conked out circa 2014, it didn’t take much googling to learn that it was a common failure and all owners had learned the same thing: no fix/parts for the system.

i might have known better than to trust a British company with electronics. (*Glances at photo of my old Austin Healy Sprite*)
that WAS an expensive SACD player! 🙄
the reviews on it were excellent & I believe the sonics are excellent too...
I think The Absolute Sound was ga-ga over this unit (& most things Musical Fidelity... 😉 )
 
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I find that surprising as Teac/Tascam was always fabulous on the pro-audio side for parts and service. They are one of the few companies that continues to support their analog pro-audio gear from 40 years ago (like the venerable 122 MkII cassette deck).
Well, I do not know what to say except that Teac wont supply that particular VRDS system.... 🙁
wish they did as I would have bought a replacement.
And, the CDP is not a pro-audio unit; it's very much a home audio brand/unit.....
 
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that WAS an expensive SACD player! 🙄
the reviews on it were excellent & I believe the sonics are excellent too...
I think The Absolute Sound was ga-ga over this unit (& most things Musical Fidelity... 😉 )

yea, the high-end modders said that everyone chose the phillips unit because it was so great, audio-wise.

It’s just that nobody knew there was a poison pill in the code Philips used (or some such)

Apparently the unit has some pretty impressive DAC hardware within, and a few people wondered whethey they may find modders to basically excise the DAC but I never heard of a success case
 
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Thanks too !
Another road to look at. I guess I have the older version of Sonos as I bought that quite a long time ago.
A good thing to know there is a way to keep using my cds. Best of both world for me then.
That’s the Play3 which is just a speaker. You need the Sonos connect to run a line in and that will transmit to all the speakers you have, or you can set up zones.

And you should be able to buy a used connect from the era of the Play3 and it should work perfectly. There was a transition for Sonos where the older and newer generations don’t play well together (of course they did), but if you keep the generations of the same period, they should work perfectly
 
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Worse: Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista SACD player, released 2003. I bought it second-hand, so luckily didn’t pay anywhere near the original $6,500 MSRP. When the transporter conked out circa 2014, it didn’t take much googling to learn that it was a common failure and all owners had learned the same thing: no fix/parts for the system.

i might have known better than to trust a British company with electronics. (*Glances at photo of my old Austin Healy Sprite*)

I came very close to buying one when they first came out - I wanted the demo unit from my local dealer but they had already promised it to someone else. IMO it punched way above it's price.

Being a former (pre-Ford days) Jag owner, I understand the issues with British electronics. My old Arcam SACD player had a transport failure, and also used a Phillips transport. I still have an Arcam FMJ DVD player, and although we rarely use it I know at some point it's going to have the same issue too.

However not all companies are this way. I just got an email about an upgrade for my Linn Klimax DS, as Linn have announced that their latest home grown Organik DAC is now available as an upgrade for my unit, which has already been updated once from the original. It had to go back to Scotland for that one as the inside of the case required machining to fit the new electronics in - the case is milled from a solid aluminum billet.

So there are companies (even UK companies!) who design their products to be upgradable, of course at a price - the upgrade to the new DAC in this case is 6,500 UK pounds...so that one is on the back burner for a while as we are replacing all our windows and doors soon...
 
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So there are companies (even UK companies!) who design their products to be upgradable, of course at a price

there were a lot of folks on audio forums dragging MF’s name through the mud. But really MF wasn’t alone in Phillips having f’d them. I was left in the cold as a secondary owner past warranty, but apparently primary owners within warranty got full price credit toward another piece of equipment whereas primary owners past warranty got a significant (50%+?) discount on a piece of equipment.

So jokes aside, MF I think oils count amongst those doing their best in a bad situation.
 
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there were a lot of folks on audio forums dragging MF’s name through the mud. But really MF wasn’t alone in Phillips having f’d them. I was left in the cold as a secondary owner past warranty, but apparently primary owners within warranty got full price credit toward another piece of equipment whereas primary owners past warranty got a significant (50%+?) discount on a piece of equipment.

So jokes aside, MF I think oils count amongst those doing their best in a bad situation.

Good of them to do that.

I’ve mentioned this before, but I used to have a Linn Unidisk 2.1 SACD player. The transport was already having problems from time to time, so that’s one reason I have the Klimax DS. Linn didn’t want the same situation to happen to their customers where they couldn’t support their products so they offered that anyone who owned one of their CD players could trade it in on a new piece of Linn gear.

You didn’t have to be the original owner or have warranty, so even though I bought mine second hand and it was well out of warranty, I was able to trade it in for a credit. The amount of the credit wasn’t based on the level of CD player you were turning in, but what you were buying. I saved a few grand on a Linn Klimax power amp as a result. Always good when companies stand by their products.