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I am not replying to this again. They are the same shop. They just pick random store front names
Its nothing like swatch. Not sure why you even
mentioned them.
Watches of Switzerland, Mappin and Webb and goldsmiths are the same shop.
Period
Now let’s move on

I mentioned Swatch because it is exactly what you are claiming in regards to the shops under the parent company umbrella of Aurum Holdings\Watches of Switzerland Group. Watches of Switzerland Group own WOS, Mappin & Webb and Goldsmiths, but they have their own identities, have theiir own management and P&L and they do not all stock the same watches across the board. So it follows that Swatch, just like The Watches of Switzerland Group own different brands, but nobody would use your logic as above to lump a Hamilton, a Mido and an Omega together, so why do it with a retail company?
 
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I guess it's like saying Fiat, Alpha Romeo and Ferrari are the same shop front or BMW, Mini and Rolls Royce are the same. Agree with you, they definitely are not. There are too many ppl on this forum are newbies and they must be given the correct information on this forum.

I've tried again to present the correct info. only time will tell if it will be accepted or understood.
 
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I guess it's like saying Fiat, Alpha Romeo and Ferrari are the same shop front or BMW, Mini and Rolls Royce are the same. Agree with you, they definitely are not. There are too many ppl on this forum are newbies and they must be given the correct information on this forum.

No it’s not
Yes you are right, too many newbies
Watches of Switzerland, mappin and Webb and goldsmiths are the same shop
End of story
Anyone who says otherwise and uses ridiculous swatch or fiat comparisons should keep their newbie thoughts to them self
 
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Stufflers Mom Stufflers Mom
I've tried again to present the correct info. only time will tell if it will be accepted or understood.
You don’t even know anything about this company and shop
So how can you present it ?
You only don’t want to admit the truth due to pride
Just admit it and move on
Giving out fake news is not helping anyone
 
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colonel colonel
You don’t even know anything about this company and shop
So how can you present it ?
You only don’t want to admit the truth due to pride
Just admit it and move on
Giving out fake news is not helping anyone


Oh dear! I think that you have now reached the point where you put down the shovel and stop digging.
You may not believe it but I know quite a bit about Aurum Holdings and have played golf with and sat at dinner with senior management of both Aurum Holdings and Omega, you?
 
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Oh dear! I think that you have now reached the point where you put down the shovel and stop digging.
You may not believe it but I know quite a bit about Aurum Holdings and have played golf with and sat at dinner with senior management of both Aurum Holdings and Omega, you?

Its painful when someone embarrasses themselves
Anyway, back to the real world, they are the same shop, share the same stock and have the same prices and sales
did you think british and airways were two separate airlines LOL
 
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colonel colonel
Its painful when someone embarrasses themselves
Anyway, back to the real world, they are the same shop, share the same stock and have the same prices and sales
did you think british and airways were two separate airlines LOL

Repeating "they are the same shop" won't make it correct however many times you type it. They have the same parent company, just as the Swatch Group is the parent company of Mido, Hamilton and Omega. Do you see now?
 
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Repeating "they are the same shop" won't make it correct however many times you type it. They have the same parent company, just as the Swatch Group is the parent company of Mido, Hamilton and Omega. Do you see now?

repeating other companies that bear no relation to this shop does not make any difference
mido, Hamilton and omega do not sell the same watches, share the same stock and promotions and 1000 other things
saying that the tail of british airways planes is a different part of the company as the cockpit is laughable
I think the real problem you have is that is obvious to everyone on this forum, that every goldsmiths, mappin and watches of swiss manager, executive and salesperson know they are working for the same company with the same computer systems, same stock, same management structure
I am wondering why you are pursuing this when so obviously wrong.
Perhaps you are quite old and remember when these brands were different
Let me help you a bit
the modern term is fascias
https://www.retail-jeweller.com/new...blocktitle=AURUM-HOLDINGS-NEWS&contentID=4044

aurum calls shops omega boutiques, tag boutiques, any of its shop names or anything else per area to just see what sells better locally. like lever calls the washing powder daz or persil, even though its the same thing in the box made at the same factory

actually that's a good comparison. wos is like lever
 
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colonel colonel
there is only one model in 1 sale which was price matched by another jeweller.
colonel colonel
repeating other companies that bear no relation to this shop does not make any difference
mido, Hamilton and omega do not sell the same watches, share the same stock and promotions and 1000 other things
saying that the tail of british airways planes is a different part of the company as the cockpit is laughable
I think the real problem you have is that is obvious to everyone on this forum, that every goldsmiths, mappin and watches of swiss manager, executive and salesperson know they are working for the same company with the same computer systems, same stock, same management structure
I am wondering why you are pursuing this when so obviously wrong.
Perhaps you are quite old and remember when these brands were different
Let me help you a bit
the modern term is fascias
https://www.retail-jeweller.com/new...blocktitle=AURUM-HOLDINGS-NEWS&contentID=4044

aurum calls shops omega boutiques, tag boutiques, any of its shop names or anything else per area to just see what sells better locally. like lever calls the washing powder daz or persil, even though its the same thing in the box made at the same factory

actually that's a good comparison. wos is like lever

The reason why I'm pursuing this thread it that a lot of what you have posted is incorrect, so let's check.....

colonel colonel
there is only one model in 1 sale which was price matched by another jeweller.
Wrong, several models of GM are on sale right now and from several different retail outlets across the UK.

colonel colonel
Watches of Switzerland, Mappin and Webb and goldsmiths are the same shop.
Period
Now let’s move on

Wrong, they are owned by the same company, but there are not the same shop.


[QUOTE="colonel, post: 1076681, member: 3161"]I am not replying to this again.
[/QUOTE]


Wrong, you have continued to post several times since, can you spot a trend?
 
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Stufflers Mom Stufflers Mom

Wrong, they are owned by the same company, but there are not the same shop.

[QUOTE="colonel, post: 1076681, member: 3161"]I am not replying to this again.

Wrong, you have continued to post several times since, can you spot a trend?[/QUOTE]

you have not read anything I have wrote
you know nothing about the goldsmiths group
you know nothing about retail
you know nothing about watch sales
spot a trend ?
 
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I guess you can't argue with stupid.

ROLF
I guess being able to eat and turn up to a golf course doesn’t give you any knowledge of retail
You do seem to share a personality with your forum name, even though you misspelt it 😁
 
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colonel colonel
ROLF
I guess being able to eat and turn up to a golf course doesn’t give you any knowledge of retail
You do seem to share a personality with your forum name, even though you misspelt it 😁

Your right, retail is not for me, but on this occasion I need to give way to someone such as yourself who has vast experience in the retail sector having gained a large collection of name tags and hair nets in his time.
 
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I guess you can't argue with stupid.
colonel colonel
ROLF
I guess being able to eat and turn up to a golf course doesn’t give you any knowledge of retail
You do seem to share a personality with your forum name, even though you misspelt it 😁

Even though this is not my business, I feel like that there is clearly a lot of tension here between you two.

There's no need to insult anyone just because they have a different opinion guys. I'm pretty sure there's a rule on this forum to be respectful too.

Just cool it off a little, it isn't worth degrading your good names over this as I'm sure people can formulate their own opinions about retailer ownership.
 
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Even though this is not my business, I feel like that there is clearly a lot of tension here between you two.

There's no need to insult anyone just because they have a different opinion guys. I'm pretty sure there's a rule on this forum to be respectful too.

Just cool it off a little, it isn't worth degrading your good names over this as I'm sure people can formulate their own opinions about retailer ownership.


I hear what you are saying, but should we just let people post misinformation and incorrect statements without correcting them? An example of this is he claims that they all have the same stock. when it's clear that WOS and Goldsmiths are very different in the stock they hold.
 
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Stufflers Mom Stufflers Mom
I hear what you are saying, but should we just let people post misinformation and incorrect statements without correcting them? An example of this is he claims that they all have the same stock. when it's clear that WOS and Goldsmiths are very different in the stock they hold.

Indeed I understand, misinformation is quite dangerous.

You had made your point, it's up to the readers at the end of the day to formulate their own opinions from what has been said however. If someone does not accept your opinion then you can't exactly shove it down their throats.

It's great that you're leading the crusade on misinformation in the thread but this all descended into name calling and slandering. That is what I was mainly against, no one likes being called an Idiot or slandered using their username right?

I'm not saying you were wrong for your reasoning, but you were wrong in calling him stupid. He was wrong too so I think we should just leave that argument there and let people decide for themselves. They can independently research if the topic truly interests them and make their opinions from there.

Not too sure I made much sense there.... Apologies it's late.
 
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I hear what you are saying, but should we just let people post misinformation and incorrect statements without correcting them? An example of this is he claims that they all have the same stock. when it's clear that WOS and Goldsmiths are very different in the stock they hold.

I agree with slowpoker
Unfortunately you are the one posting misinformation and you don’t back down Because of some kind of internal pride
The facts are clear that goldsmiths, mappin and Webb and watches of Switzerland are the same and people can read my posts and google to see it. Even the web sites are the same * particularly when you get to check out and see the same stock levels. They are just different fascias (retailing term) or trade name (legal term). How many times can one refute this ? It’s so explicitly obvious
All I ask is you stop posting the wrong information and people can make up their own minds

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“Goldsmiths is a trading name of Watches of Switzerland Company Limited. Registered Office: Aurum House, 2 Elland Road, Braunstone, Leicester, LE3 1TT, Registered in England, Company number 00146087. Registered VAT Number 834 8634 04.”
“Mappin & Webb is a trading name of Watches of Switzerland Company Limited. Registered Office: Aurum House, 2 Elland Road, Braunstone, Leicester, LE3 1TT, Registered in England, Company number 00146087. Registered VAT Number 834 8634 04.
“Watches of Switzerland is a trading name of Watches of Switzerland Company Limited. Registered Office: Aurum House, 2 Elland Road, Braunstone, Leicester, LE3 1TT, Registered in England, Company number 00146087. Registered VAT Number 834 8634 04.”
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