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I am justing talking AD discount. Yes Omega is better than most brands. I sold my Breitling Navitimer and lost nearly half of what I paid for it. It was heartbreaking. Now, I am not going to start about how much all my Rolex has appreciated...not the appropriate place to talk on this forum.
 
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So what are you suggesting, they pull a Rolex?

In all seriousness I understand what you're saying, but it isn't up to Omega to discount it, it was the AD's decision. They bought too many of these watches with high expectations, now they've reduced them by a couple of thousand to try and shift them.

It really isn't Omega's fault in this case.

I suggest Omega starts focusing on core models and stop releasing so many peripheral models or ranges of the same models. Make them made to order or something. Discounting current stocks are very painful to already buyers. You are an Omega buyer. You can't tell me you feel good after seeing your watch go on sale after you just purchased full price. Let's not talk about Rolex, not the right forum.
 
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I suggest Omega starts focusing on core models and stop releasing so many peripheral models or ranges of the same models. Make them made to order or something. Discounting current stocks are very painful to already buyers. You are an Omega buyer. You can't tell me you feel good after seeing your watch go on sale after you just purchased full price. Let's not talk about Rolex, not the right forum.

Omega only has seamaster, speedmaster, constellation and de ville

I would strongly suspect they are only maintaining watches that are selling

they are a business after all
 
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I suggest Omega starts focusing on core models and stop releasing so many peripheral models or ranges of the same models. Make them made to order or something. Discounting current stocks are very painful to already buyers. You are an Omega buyer. You can't tell me you feel good after seeing your watch go on sale after you just purchased full price. Let's not talk about Rolex, not the right forum.

The one big thing about Omega is that they have a variety of watches to choose from, everyone's happy when they can choose that one watch which suits them.

It really isn't their fault if an AD buys a large amount of stock that ends up being too big of a pill to swallow for the AD and they have to resort to discounts. Omega's already made their money.

I am actually after my very first Omega, and if I was a smart buyer I would have bought my Omega either discounted from the AD in the first place or would buy from the secondary or grey market so I don't have to tank the depreciation value. No need to feel bad when I've gotten the best deal already, right?

This applies to pretty much everything that's ever been sold. If you're buying an item, expect to see it on sale in the future.
 
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I was brought up in a Rolex AD in the late 70s early 80s as my dad owned the place . Thats where my interest began. Back then they also sold Omega. My god Omega was cool back then. They had the marine chronometer, the Olympic 76 chrono quartz, The moon watch. It was just so cool to own an Omega, they were revolutionary...leading edge luxury. I love Omega, it's been lasered into me from a very young age and I wish them all the best and a strong comeback.
 
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watches of Switzerland is goldsmiths, and so is mappin webb


You seem to be getting your facts all wrong on this thread.
You can find more that one version of a GM on sale at more the 2 high street outlets in the UK and "watches of Switzerland is not Goldsmiths and neither is Mappin and Webb. All three belonged to the Aurum Holdings which recently been renamed as Watches of Switzerland Group.
 
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The one big thing about Omega is that they have a variety of watches to choose from, everyone's happy when they can choose that one watch which suits them.

It really isn't their fault if an AD buys a large amount of stock that ends up being too big of a pill to swallow for the AD and they have to resort to discounts. Omega's already made their money

I am actually after my very first Omega, and if I was a smart buyer I would have bought my Omega either discounted from the AD in the first place or would buy from the secondary or grey market so I don't have to tank the depreciation value. No need to feel bad when I've gotten the best deal already, right?

This applies to pretty much everything that's ever been sold. If you're buying an item, expect to see it on sale in the future.

Good luck in buying your first Omega! Which ones are you looking at?
 
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Good luck in buying your first Omega! Which ones are you looking at?

I'm after the Grey side Meteorite at the moment, but I'm being swayed by the Aventurine Blue side which is releasing soon.

There are a lot of choices, it's like being in a diamond mine but only being able to pick one diamond, do you go for colour, size, shape? So many choices!

This will actually be my first ever watch, I've not owned any before but I've worn many, from GS to Breitling. Omega was the most comfy for me and the very best in my opinion.
 
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That's very expensive for your first watch. With that kind of budget, you can buy most brands. Just be careful of the Omega money making machine...they design their watches to fit into fashion of the moment and can go out of fashion very quickly with the moonwatch being an exception. Just thought you should know as a first watch person coming from a 20 years watch person.
 
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That's very expensive for your first watch. With that kind of budget, you can buy most brands. Just be careful of the Omega money making machine...they design their watches to fit into fashion of the moment and can go out of fashion very quickly with the moonwatch being an exception. Just thought you should know as a first watch person coming from a 20 years watch person.

Indeed thank you for sharing the risks, I do think the Meteorite looks timeless, but I'm honestly having second thoughts as to its movement compared to the newer 9900 or 9904 movements. Not sure if I could wait until next year however for the aventurine.

It is pretty expensive but it's for sale on Chrono24 for £7400, just going to try and negotiate it as far as I can before I pull the trigger. Plus it seems to be a really uncommon or even rare watch in the wild compared to the dark side. I like rare things so that adds to the appeal.
 
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Like I said earlier, omega sold this in fashion back then. Now the fashion has changed to smaller watches. You might not want to be the only one with a huge meteorite watch on your wrist in public, especially for over £7k. Maybe for that money, you can consider a more iconic watch that sits beyond fashion, like the moonwatch etc. I have seen so many rookie mistakes in my time. Hell, I have made rookie mistake myself.
 
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Like I said earlier, omega sold this in fashion back then. Now the fashion has changed to smaller watches. You might not want to be the only one with a huge meteorite watch on your wrist in public, especially for over £7k. Maybe for that money, you can consider a more iconic watch that sits beyond fashion, like the moonwatch etc. I have seen so many rookie mistakes in my time. Hell, I have made rookie mistake myself.

I would actually love to be the only one, that's what I center most of my stuff around such as my python bag. I like to have things no one else does but at the same time are fashionable.

However I am no fool to turn down advice. Based on your experience what watch would you recommend?

I'm mainly looking for the modern Omega calibres such as the 9300-9900, as much as I appreciate the manual winds I can't imagine winding it everyday as I'm short for time as is, so the professional moonwatch is out.
 
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For 7k, I'll just go and buy a Rolex at an AD. However if you are desperate for an Omega, going to grey market or chrono 24 is the correct thing to do. I wouldn't buy any of the peripheral watches. Either buy the only Speedmaster or none at all. This thread is about the GM, that's a good buy, iconi and a right size or just go for the gen 1 Brosnan Seamaster at a bargain, you can't go wrong with iconic watches and they are the right size. I was in London getting my Rolex serviced this week. Most ppl didn't wear watches but the ones that wore watches, they were between 36 to 41 max. Any bigger, it looks really out of place now!!! I feel sorry for all those Breitling fan boys.
 
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You seem to be getting your facts all wrong on this thread.
You can find more that one version of a GM on sale at more the 2 high street outlets in the UK and "watches of Switzerland is not Goldsmiths and neither is Mappin and Webb. All three belonged to the Aurum Holdings which recently been renamed as Watches of Switzerland Group.

No you are confused, they are all the same shop
They have the same range the same sales and if you buy at one it comes up in your sales records in another
I know, I have bought from goldsmiths and watches of Switzerland and the salespeople tell me they are all the same

Buying Rolex at any of these shops count towards a Rolex premium customer
 
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For 7k, I'll just go and buy a Rolex at an AD. However if you are desperate for an Omega, going to grey market or chrono 24 is the correct thing to do. I wouldn't buy any of the peripheral watches. Either buy the only Speedmaster or none at all. This thread is about the GM, that's a good buy, iconi and a right size or just go for the gen 1 Brosnan Seamaster at a bargain, you can't go wrong with iconic watches and they are the right size. I was in London getting my Rolex serviced this week. Most ppl didn't wear watches but the ones that wore watches, they were between 36 to 41 max. Any bigger, it looks really out of place now!!! I feel sorry for all those Breitling fan boys.

You've given me a lot to think about here, thank you very much.

Rolex, as much as I appreciate their value I just don't like them for some reason, I can't exactly put my finger on why either.

I'm going to call Omega and ask about their Aventurine dial watch, I can actually imagine myself wearing that for a while and thusly I'll settle on it.

The meteorite, as much as I adore it, I'm not sure about the movement, it's a really good watch however and if I can get one at £6.5k or so I'll pull the trigger. It's the right size for my wrist too, not amazingly large or really small either.

Thanks very much again, I appreciate it.
 
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Like I said earlier, omega sold this in fashion back then. Now the fashion has changed to smaller watches. You might not want to be the only one with a huge meteorite watch on your wrist in public, especially for over £7k. Maybe for that money, you can consider a more iconic watch that sits beyond fashion, like the moonwatch etc. I have seen so many rookie mistakes in my time. Hell, I have made rookie mistake myself.

Omega makes very small watches, the constellations being 38 and 35 for men are a case in point
Omega is the second most highly recognised watch brand after Rolex.
IMHO the Rolex 8*** and 9*** are some of the best movements in watch making today. Pure jewellery with the extra barrel just for accuracy.

The fact is that for any well known watch brand which is popular you will loose half the value when you come out of the shop
For some brands which are not as highly sought after in resale, like montblanc or tag you will loose 3/4s of the value

Even for Rolex the only ones that are in demand are SS pro watches which Rolex articificially limits production of to force people to buy the high profit and garish bimetallic and gold watches. I work near one of the highest turnover Rolex sellers in the country and they get 5-6 SS black date subs every year and have 200 people in the waiting list - go figure

Rolex can do wahtever it wants, it’s a private company, it hardly ever changes its watches, it has the highest recognised luxury good maker brand. It can do anything whilst customers queue. The problem with Rolex, like any brand, is as soon as there is a recession in China the values will crash. London second hand jewellers are full of subs and Daytona’s waiting for the crash ..

Lastly many people confuse the second hand dealer price with what they will get. Even most model SS pro Rolexes the seller will loose 10-15% by walking out of the shop if they try to sell and all second hand dealer prices are negotiable ....

The key thing with watches is to buy what you like and keep it and enjoy it. Try and get the best discount of course but based on 10 year ownership a 1000 here or there is irrelevant. It’s simple really
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Omega makes very small watches, the constellations being 38 and 35 for men are a case in point
Omega is the second most highly recognised watch brand after Rolex.
IMHO the Rolex 8*** and 9*** are some of the best movements in watch making today. Pure jewellery with the extra barrel just for accuracy.

The fact is that for any well known watch brand which is popular you will loose half the value when you come out of the shop
For some brands which are not as highly sought after in resale, like montblanc or tag you will loose 3/4s of the value

Even Rolex the only only that are in demand are SS pro watches which Rolex articificially limits production of to force people to buy the high profit and garish bimetallic and gold watches. I work near one of the highest turnover Rolex sellers in the country and they get 5-6 SS black date subs every year and have 200 people in the waiting list - go figure

Rolex can do wahtever it wants, it’s a private company, it hardly ever changes its watches, it has the highest recognised luxury good maker brand. It can do anything whilst customers queue. The problem with Rolex, like any brand, is as soon as there is a recession in China the values will crash. London second hand jewellers are full of subs and Daytona’s waiting for the crash ..

Lastly many people confuse the second hand dealer price eight what they will get. Even most model SS pro Rolexes the seller will loose 10-15% by walking out of the shop
Agree totally Omega is starting to release smaller size watch Like they used to Thank god....although not sure why the new 2018 wave seamaster got bigger. How odd. Their anniversary range of railmaster, seamaster and speedmaster is the way forward for Omega. I love those!
 
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No you are confused, they are all the same shop
They have the same range the same sales and if you buy at one it comes up in your sales records in another
I know, I have bought from goldsmiths and watches of Switzerland and the salespeople tell me they are all the same

Buying Rolex at any of these shops count towards a Rolex premium customer

No, you are confused. I know exactly who is part of the parent company, but that's not what you said, but using your logic an Omega watch is a Swatch.
 
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No, you are confused. I know exactly who is part of the parent company, but that's not what you said, but using your logic an Omega watch is a Swatch.

I am not replying to this again. They are the same shop. They just pick random store front names
Its nothing like swatch. Not sure why you even
mentioned them.
Watches of Switzerland, Mappin and Webb and goldsmiths are the same shop.
Period
Now let’s move on
 
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No, you are confused. I know exactly who is part of the parent company, but that's not what you said, but using your logic an Omega watch is a Swatch.
I guess it's like saying Fiat, Alpha Romeo and Ferrari are the same shop front or BMW, Mini and Rolls Royce are the same. Agree with you, they definitely are not. There are too many ppl on this forum are newbies and they must be given the correct information on this forum.
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