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And to think just a few armed citizens at the concert could have changed everything.
 
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And to think just a few armed citizens at the concert could have changed everything.
Really not the time or the place...
 
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In fact all of the attackers on the January attacks in France and the attacker identified on this one so far where born and raised French. So....

Its like everything we discussed, disenfranchised people finding or being offered a vehicle to challenge their anger, frustrations or bias.

This is part of my point: "Born French" but often in an enclave where non Muslim French nor law enforcement can not not go. Where their middle eastern culture heritage and religion and law is preserved encapsulated and where there is a proliferation of hate ridden centres of learning. There is no "assimilation" into the "new country" even after generations. To say that they do not come over with the boat people I find ludicrous. Especially after watching footage of these so called refugees the majority being young fit military aged males between 18 and 45 years of age and unaccompanied by dependents. Watching their reception of host country food and water handouts at railway stations and centres cements the fact.

Stockholm syndrome is exactly why this won't stop. The Algerian civil war refugees may have been the start of the enclaves but what is happening now is a continuation exactly in line with the new doctrine of jihad for anyone that has actually taken the time to study it.
 
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As far as letting in the Syrian immigrants, has the Statue of Liberty and what it says suddenly evaporated?
 
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As far as letting in the Syrian immigrants, has the Statue of Liberty and what it says suddenly evaporated?
"huddled masses yearning to breathe free"

Well that is certainly a good point, but do you have a demographic break down of the immigrants?
 
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"huddled masses yearning to breathe free"

Well that is certainly a good point, but do you have a demographic break down of the immigrants?

President Obama thinks someone in one of his departments has control over this or has that information ..😒
 
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Well that is certainly a good point, but do you have a demographic break down of the immigrants?
I don't think she says anything about demographics. I think you quoted the operable words.
 
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I don't think she says anything about demographics. I think you quoted the operable words.
That's my point as long as they are true huddled masses, great. Lets just use some discretion ascertaining those in need and deserving. It should not be that difficult.
 
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As far as letting in the Syrian immigrants, has the Statue of Liberty and what it says suddenly evaporated?

Those in power couldn't care less about (perceived) fundamental, American values.

How many (Iraqi) Shia refugees have been welcomed to America? Over seventeen thousand civilians were killed in 2014, largely as a result of "unintended consequences" of the U.S. invasion.
 
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That's my point as long as they are true huddled masses, great. Lets just use some discretion ascertaining those in need and deserving. It should not be that difficult.
Easier said than done.

Remember, one US president was assassinated by a legal Czech immigrant who was an Anarchist and another by a defector who was allowed to return to re-assert his US citizenship. In neither case were political motives part of the immigration process.

We're just not set up that way. Most countries aren't.
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You want to stop terrorists from sneaking in with regular refugees? Put a $100,000 bounty on each terrorist identified payable only to legit refugees. They know what the score is with those around them. No background checks, just a guy with a check book at the point of entry.
 
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The people from Boston may have a different perspective knowing that the Tsarnaev brothers were refugees from Chechnya.
 
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The people from Boston may have a different perspective knowing that the Tsarnaev brothers were refugees from Chechnya.
That's not what i meant. I was just saying that 99.99% of these people were leaving their country tout escape terror from the islamic stage and al hassad. As most of us would in this situation.
 
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I think its evident that 99.99% is pure pipe dream. As for the "peaceful" ones, as soon as they take to the streets in their host countries and the enclaves in Paris, Brussels, and many other parts of Europe where they are creating their own "states" demonstrating against the violence committed in the name of their religion with the same ferocity that they do when a cartoon comes out, then I will take claims like this seriously. Until then the peaceful ones that keep shtum are either irrelevant or do not exist in any significant numbers at all.

How come 99.99% of these "refugees" are young fit looking military aged males without dependents in tow? Yes there certainly are refugees among them with children etc but you can clearly see who is and who is not. Its seriously time to wake up shed the scales and realise that for some reason or other your politicians are having you on about this. Now the whole of Europe is being held hostage. Those of you that say you wont be defeated. Guess what, your governments have already conceded defeat. France is in a state of lock-down from a "State" that does not even exist. because the governments that have spent. Watch this video and then some of the violent demonstrations conducted by. Wait for it.. Military aged fit well fed males and see what has come to you via "multiculturalism". I'll probably be highly unpopular after this, but honestly I could not care less. Watching Europe is like watching the proverbial lemmings running headfirst over a cliff.

 
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That's not what i meant. I was just saying that 99.99% of these people were leaving their country tout escape terror from the islamic stage and al hassad. As most of us would in this situation.

Are you sure they're not fleeing IS and Al Nusra Front and the myriad other terrorist armies that are driving them from their towns and villages under the threat of beheading? Has the brainwashing become so extensive in Europe?
 
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Two points :
-this is rather unfair showing this video as you absolutly don't know in what circumstances it was taken. As for what I see, it is in Hungary. Hungarian Gvt is well known for its respect of people and democracy. I remember seing Hungarian police throwing food at these refugees like to animals.
I wondered in what state you would be after travelling with an empty stomach, piled up in a rusty boat risking your life any minute.
- the other "funny" point is you're Irish (I have no problem with that). That is quite ironic. Unless I'm becoming senile, as far as I know, several millions irish left Ireland in the mid 19th century for about the same reasons (misery, hunger or war same effects). I also remember how they were considered by the Wasps when arriving in the US. Short memory makes bad History. Catholics were considered as retards peasants. what if they had been sent back home?
As for multiculturalism, Ireland is not known for havinf a lot of muslims on its soil. France does. I work everyday with "these people", I leave in an aera that has many communities : Africans (muslims or not), Jewish (from north africa or eastern Europe), french born muslims or not, Asians, and thank you everything goes fine in everyday life. Problems happen when you have ghettos with only muslims people+unemployement+no culture+ those foreign sick preachers.
to end up with all this. You may think I'm a kind of naive left wing guy. All this except naive. Let me explain : I accept any religion and belief in my country, any "race". The limit is, I won't accept people calling to murder, plotting to kill people. I don't accept neither, these fools (muslims, jewish or catholics) telling me how to live my life and what to believe in.
Sorry for my "approximative" english, I have the weird idea of being french 😉
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