Found a little Cartier Tank, but is it?

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If the community opinion wasn’t enough... I did bring this piece to a Cartier boutique. They also confirmed it was an authentic piece. Without a doubt it was in rough shape. Badly peeling dial, overwound movement with a broken mainspring, etc. all the things you would expect why buying something like this for a few bucks.

Since it was in such bad shape, I opted to have them restore the watch - something I’ve never done with a vintage watch for obvious reasons, but I thought there wasn’t much to lose in this case.

What an amazing transformation. I was floored. They replaced the dial with a enamel dial and added blued steel hands. The movement was overhauled and it feels like a brand new piece.

Here it is:




Oh, and now the dial says “Paris”

Do you mind if I ask how you got to the movement? I bought a similar looking tank i’m trying to authenticate but taking off the snap back only removes the crystal. Does the crown have to be unscrewed or something?
 
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LEGIT. I gave one of this to my wife.
Had to change that exactly same dial, for the must de Cartier, because the original,pocelanized I think, was in bad condition.
Had no choice.
 
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If the community opinion wasn’t enough... I did bring this piece to a Cartier boutique. They also confirmed it was an authentic piece. Without a doubt it was in rough shape. Badly peeling dial, overwound movement with a broken mainspring, etc. all the things you would expect why buying something like this for a few bucks.

Since it was in such bad shape, I opted to have them restore the watch - something I’ve never done with a vintage watch for obvious reasons, but I thought there wasn’t much to lose in this case.

What an amazing transformation. I was floored. They replaced the dial with a enamel dial and added blued steel hands. The movement was overhauled and it feels like a brand new piece.

Here it is:




Oh, and now the dial says “Paris”

Beautiful restoration!

So will Cartier service dials sometimes have “Paris” printed on the bottom? Had always kind of thought service dials were Swiss or Swiss Made.
 
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@themattedial Thank you very much for a very interesting exploration. If you were to buy a tank again would you try and find a "must de" or try and find the same watch you have? ... it seems your watch does not show up in the Cartier narrative at all. It is the precious metals tanks in the sixties and before and then the "must de". Cartier experimenting with plated brass does not show up anywhere except here.... so thank you and well done! I think it is great that Cartier gave you a service! I read somewhere that Cartier does not service "must de" tank anymore.... would anyone care to comment? I would love to know more about the gold plated brass tank....
 
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@Wilmi -- Sorry I didn't see your earlier message from a few months ago, I haven't been very active on the forum. To answer your question, if I were to buy a tank again, I probably wouldn't buy a must or any other plated tank. I've had several solid gold models over the years including a Cintree and an LC in a few configurations. I think it's worth hunting a solid gold model at a reasonable price if you can find one. A year or two ago it was easy to get them at a bargain as nobody was looking. Things have clearly changed, but they are still out there. It seems Cartier would like to purge the plated brass era from memory, but we keep finding examples of them.. and this recent example that @Wallas posted is in the best original condition I've observed.
 
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Hello I am a man with a 7.5” inch wrist searching for a Cartier Vermeil Tank Louis, Is it possible for a man to wear a vintage watch such as that. I wanted to add it to my Cartier collection? Any advice or pictures of wrists?
 
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@Wilmi -- Sorry I didn't see your earlier message from a few months ago, I haven't been very active on the forum. To answer your question, if I were to buy a tank again, I probably wouldn't buy a must or any other plated tank. I've had several solid gold models over the years including a Cintree and an LC in a few configurations. I think it's worth hunting a solid gold model at a reasonable price if you can find one. A year or two ago it was easy to get them at a bargain as nobody was looking. Things have clearly changed, but they are still out there. It seems Cartier would like to purge the plated brass era from memory, but we keep finding examples of them.. and this recent example that @Wallas posted is in the best original condition I've observed.
Thank you, themattedial! I found a Tank I am very happy with... and later I found a 'must de' which I like as well... the 'must de' I had serviced because the glas was badly scratched...
 
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If the community opinion wasn’t enough... I did bring this piece to a Cartier boutique. They also confirmed it was an authentic piece. Without a doubt it was in rough shape. Badly peeling dial, overwound movement with a broken mainspring, etc. all the things you would expect why buying something like this for a few bucks.

Since it was in such bad shape, I opted to have them restore the watch - something I’ve never done with a vintage watch for obvious reasons, but I thought there wasn’t much to lose in this case.

What an amazing transformation. I was floored. They replaced the dial with a enamel dial and added blued steel hands. The movement was overhauled and it feels like a brand new piece.

Here it is:




Oh, and now the dial says “Paris”

beautiful restoration! I think u made the right move. bonus 'Paris' 👍
 
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Looking to make a purchase of a Cartier Tank 18k and wished to get any experienced watch enthusiasts opinion on thoughts of authenticity , also noticed the ‘Swiss’ at the 6 o clock , but that may not be a factor anymore, just haven’t seen this exact model before with the diamonds in this setting, or the font on the caseback. But over all seems legit and comes with original papers
 
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Those diamonds probably weren’t set by Cartier but by someone in the aftermarket. Usually diamond set cartier watches have a diamond cabochon set in the crown not a blue sapphire. There may be exceptions to this but it is a rule I follow. It looks to be a limited edition of some kind. Do the papers mention the diamonds or model? If I were you I’d make sure it left the factory like that before buying.
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Those diamonds probably weren’t set by Cartier but by someone in the aftermarket. Usually diamond set cartier watches have a diamond cabochon set in the crown not a blue sapphire. There may be exceptions to this but it is a rule I follow. It looks to be a limited edition of some kind. Do the papers mention the diamonds or model? If I were you I’d make sure it left the factory like that before buying.


The seller has confirmed that the diamonds where added in the aftermarket, and with that I also noticed the 38/40, so it seems to be part of a limited series , but the seller was very open with saying the diamonds where added after purchase. It had all the paperwork and even had a recent battery replacement from Cartier themselves with the serial etc and paperwork ,
 
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Be aware that after set diamonds can drastically affect the value of a piece. If you like it that’s great but it might be tricky to sell on if you tire of it. In other words I hope it’s cheap, certainly much cheaper than a plain gold one.
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Be aware that after set diamonds can drastically affect the value of a piece. If you like it that’s great but it might be tricky to sell on if you tire of it. In other words I hope it’s cheap, certainly much cheaper than a plain gold one.


Much appreciated for the comments I met up with the seller today and decided not to purchase because it didn’t feel right the condition of the box was not near the quality I would normally expect from Cartier
but mainly the watch itself definitely felt lighter then when handling a solid gold watch with yeah gold bracelet and the documentation that supported the watch just didn’t feel pristine as well as a few scratches on the sapphire glass
all in all I think it’s much safer to stay away from this one especially as the agreed purchase price was £6000
 
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In person meet,
Just didn’t feel right

the discrete ‘Cartier’ in the Roman numberal at the 10 o clock ‘ X ‘ was not legible and overall it just didn’t have the pristine shop details regardless if the watch is 15 years old, The hallmarks were also not all crisp and mainly the watch metal looks far too shiny then the usual brushed metal on the centrepiece of the links and the case back from the inside of the watch