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JwRosenthal
·I think moving ones head a few inches has a bigger impact. 😉
For the Hi-Fi enthusiasts among us...
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BlackTalon
··This Space for Rentroom treatment is definitely a huge bang for the buck, even though it can cost many, many dollars. My main system is in the family room, as is my son's, so there is no treatment whatsoever. I'm looking at electronic options for my main system, although I have a couple analog sources so that makes it more of a challenge.
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JwRosenthal
·room treatment is definitely a huge bang for the buck, even though it can cost many, many dollars. My main system is in the family room, as is my son's, so there is no treatment whatsoever. I'm looking at electronic options for my main system, although I have a couple analog sources so that makes it more of a challenge.
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SkunkPrince
·I think moving ones head a few inches has a bigger impact. 😉
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arturo7
·I notice a massive change in sound when I turn out the lights.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerBefore someone upgrades anything in their current system, work out the acoustic issues in the room first- otherwise you are just throwing good money after bad.
The room is the part of the system typically paid the least amount of attention, unfortunately.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThere is a lot of truth and a lot of fairy dust in cables. Lamp cord sucks, it always has. But cables are a market where the results are fairly subjective and there is virtually no way to prove that a cable can provide a better image, or give more bass slam, or lift the back wall off the room…although I have heard all the above with different cables and not changing anything else in a system. But as to companies claiming such results- show me that graph.
Agreed. There are always the "if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist" folks out there who will never be convinced that cabling can make a difference, but like you I've heard very dramatic changes just by switching cables. Fortunately the last change I made was to cables that cost less than what I was using, and the sound improved. Like anything in audio, money isn't always the determining factor of the quality of the sound.
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Vercingetorix
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Just one? Had a pair of Warfdales in college. Amazing for their size.
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskJust one? Had a pair of Warfdales in college. Amazing for their size.
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rob#1
·A friend of mine, who is an acoustic engineer, is always advocating for diffraction over absorption. Many people tend to over dampen a room trying to kill reflection, but also end up removing some of the energy that is actually part of the music. There are a some clever diy ways to diffract (like bookshelf on back wall with staggered sizes and depth of books to create baffling), or using fabric covered panels (foam underneath) as a decorated wall diffuser. Many think that room treatments need to be $$$, but some clever DIY hacks can get you very close
Very good point. When we were refurbishing a demo room many years ago we tried something different by having the room’s walls sprayed with an acoustically dead treatment to cut out reflection, but this made the room sound really flat and dead. There was no echo at all, it sounded awful, really unnatural. So we removed the wall treatment, set the room up as normal, then made some large panels with a wooden frame surrounding foam with coloured felt over the top - they just hung like paintings on the walls where needed. Problem solved, the room’s sound was spot on.
So many improvements can be made with subtle changes to the room’s set up (you don’t need to cover a wall in egg cartons), probably more so than the differences in cables (having completed many experiments comparing cables).
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JwRosenthal
·Very good point. When we were refurbishing a demo room many years ago we tried something different by having the room’s walls sprayed with an acoustically dead treatment to cut out reflection, but this made the room sound really flat and dead. There was no echo at all, it sounded awful, really unnatural. So we removed the wall treatment, set the room up as normal, then made some large panels with a wooden frame surrounding foam with coloured felt over the top - they just hung like paintings on the walls where needed. Problem solved, the room’s sound was spot on.
So many improvements can be made with subtle changes to the room’s set up (you don’t need to cover a wall in egg cartons), probably more so than the differences in cables (having completed many experiments comparing cables).
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PI Lawyer
·When the Morrison Center was built on the campus of Boise State University, it was designed to be the state of the art for acoustics in a smaller venue auditorium. I got to see Stevie Ray Vaughn perform there just a few weeks before his untimely demise. And it was the best live show I have ever attended.
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JwRosenthal
·When the Morrison Center was built on the campus of Boise State University, it was designed to be the state of the art for acoustics in a smaller venue auditorium. I got to see Stevie Ray Vaughn perform there just a few weeks before his untimely demise. And it was the best live show I have ever attended.
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Engee
·Similar experience at the Kimmel Center in Philly just after it was built, they unveiled the new (then) organ with Saint-Seans #3. We had back row nose-bleed seats, and it was sensational due to the acoustics of the hall. I miss live music…fυck Covid.
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Evitzee
·I have friends who listen to Spotify through their phone speaker and think it’s just fine.
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SkunkPrince
·I guess people would be horrified that I stream 30s and 40s music to my 1934 RCA console radio using an AM transmitter?
It sounds surprisingly good, though obviously not great. AM stations today have so much bass emphasis, it's pretty much unlistenable on that set.
It sounds surprisingly good, though obviously not great. AM stations today have so much bass emphasis, it's pretty much unlistenable on that set.
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JwRosenthal
·I guess people would be horrified that I stream 30s and 40s music to my 1934 RCA console radio using an AM transmitter?
It sounds surprisingly good, though obviously not great. AM stations today have so much bass emphasis, it's pretty much unlistenable on that set.
I rebuild a c1960 Braun Console with a friend (that thing really was a two person job to take apart). It was a stereo model with ribbon tweeters mounted on both sides. When we finally got it going, we were shocked at the quality of the sound (both of us being modern hifi snobs). Test record was of course Getz/Gilberto. It was smooth as silk with a lovely image (kind of floating around the console like a cloud) but very natural sounding like sitting in a small club. When you left the room, it actually sounded like live music in the house- incredibly impressive.
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Waltesefalcon
·Actually, it’s all about context and appreciating it for what it is (MP3 is trash, not arguing that). I have a Victrola that can fill the house with sound and some of those recording can be very nice to listen to. It’s novel of course, fun to hear. That wooden horn has a particular quality that’s very pleasing to the ear.
What model is your Victrola? I have a VV-IX made in 1917. It's a hoot to play and handy when the power goes out.
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