Faking techniques to be aware of?

Arancio601 · Nov 1, 2022

I am constantly astounded by how many Omegas are being sold as original but are not... I am still learning the signs and its mainly been around small differences in fonts, indices etc. I have seen dials where they have been 'aged' but do they also scuff up the watches or make their 6 year old wear them for a week etc.?
There is this Seamaster 300 for sale at the moment and the scuffs on the back seem to be in uniform directions and depth. It just doesn't look natural to me. I know there are a bunch of 300's out there that are not just Watch Co. builds but are all new non-Omega case, dial etc. Reckon this is one? THey still ask solid $$

dsio · Nov 1, 2022

There’s a lot that people will hold back here because tipping off tells helps the bad guys especially on high end vintage pieces.

Arancio601 · Nov 1, 2022

Hi Ash, yeah I've read similar sentiments on other forums for other brands. I guess I wasn't so much looking for where the fakes are different in terms of their reproduction getting a detail wrong but more to do with poor aging cheats. Its hard to fake tritium age well I think. But there seems to be fake-aged dials that are almost past what I would think is even attractive! Anyway, happy to let this thread slide down the page if its best to keep this quiet. I'll just have to learn this the hard(long) way.

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if fakers have a jar of wrist cheese they apply before listing...

Walrus · Nov 1, 2022

I know someone posted a link of omega pie pan dials being made in 2013 and I’m sure prior but I saw on Reddit a new “2022” one and was taken aback how “real” it looked via photo. The case wasn’t open for all I know it could have been quartz but externally it was very close. Kind of a bummer as the script and furniture looked on the money. They used to get the case size wrong but remedied that.

If you are an expert and well acquainted with all the models you could probably pick it out quicker but if you just like watches as a nice distraction all this cockamamie business has you thinkin twice about everything. I guess it’s probably a common conundrum for collectors in anything that has value, i heard someone complaining of a fake antique toy they bought.

Fortunately there are decent sellers and if paranoia kicks in you can deal with them or buy new but darn if you putting in 70 plus hours a week and helping in care for sick family members where do you put in time to figure all this out. Seems like the fakers are putting in more time.

Arancio601 · Nov 1, 2022

Yeah, I now totally get why the 200 posts requirement to sell on OF is such a good think. To have a place were you'd have to say the majority of sellers are legit is now a rare thing. I don't think I will ever take a punt on a watch that hasn't been opened for photos now.

The archives situation is still a bit annoying to me as you can't easily get verification at a reasonable price without the pretty certificate etc. I wish there was a cheaper version that simply told you what the movement belonged to. I had to get a refund recently after the '100 authentic and original movement' turned out not to be. A $50 archives check would have sorted that quickly for me. A lot of work to digitize the archives I guess. I really need to take a chill pill and stop ranting. Sorry all.

mac_omega · Nov 2, 2022

Arancio601
A lot of work to digitize the archives I guess.

Most of the archives (at least from 1939 up) is already digitised... but not accesssable to the public

Arancio601 · Nov 2, 2022

mac_omega
Most of the archives (at least from 1939 up) is already digitised... but not accesssable to the public

Interesting. I thought I read the argument for the 120Euro fee for an extract was due to the time it would take an archivist to retrieve the info then to print the certificate. I guess I am a tight @## and would be happy with a cheaper digital response.

Caliber561 · Nov 2, 2022

Arancio601
Interesting. I thought I read the argument for the 120Euro fee for an extract was due to the time it would take an archivist to retrieve the info then to print the certificate. I guess I am a tight @## and would be happy with a cheaper digital response.

The extracts used to be hand signed by the CEO of Omega, and come in a fairly nice envelope. Bit of a shame that they didn't at least keep the nicer packaging.

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