Dial Refurbishing Suggestions

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Just FYI - those three listings are all redials.

::facepalm1:: No excuses. Trying to be helpful, in a rush, not paying attention . . .
 
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I know what you mean John and Bill are the people recommended /used by watchmakers. As the OP is UK based, they would appear to be his best bet. I would never have a dial re-finished myself but, from what I have read on this site, the far east is the place for the top quality work.

Ah, the fabled Far East… but hard or impossible to find any links to anyone out that way. I've looked and nothing turned up. There was mention of someone on this Forum who had someone in Vietnam, as I recall, but no link was supplied.
 
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Hoi posted some examples of work from contacts he has in Vietnam and they were astonishingly good.
 
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Hoi posted some examples of work from contacts he has in Vietnam and they were astonishingly good.

Aye, indeed. It was that those dials I was alluding to, but as I said, I didn't see any links to the finishers. Perhaps I missed something in the chain of posts, but…
 
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Dial refinishers are for the most part very hit and miss - even the "good" ones can be. In the circle of watchmakers I am ion contact with there are almost constant questions about who is the best and you will almost always hear good and bad feedback about any one particular vendor. Often these vendors will specialize in a particular brand. I sent a vintage Rolex dial to a very well regarded company in the US who was the "top" refinisher, and they literally destroyed the dial. They made a new dial from scratch, but it was a disaster and pretty much useless.

For whatever reason dial refinishers tend to be highly variable in their timing, quality, and ability/willingness to rectify a problem. Someone who is highly regarded for a while can quickly fall off the top of the heap and be a problem vendor in a very short time - it's quite puzzling.

As noted you really have to work closely with whoever you are using and make sure they know what you want. Keep in mind these guys work with a broad range of customers, from the guys who are flipping the "ooh shiny!" examples on eBay and don't care about details, to people who want accuracy like the collectors do.

Unless you specify otherwise (and also want to pay for it) most refinishing companies will get your dial in, look at their inventory of dies, an select whatever is closest to what you want and use that. If you want an exact match, most likely they will have to make new plates, and those are not cheap. If you are into multiple colours or finishes on a dial, the cost can quickly escalate. The company I use charges $90 per plate...

Even if they get the general layout correct, often the font will be slightly off, or the printing will be too thick - these details seem to escape most refinishers for some reason.

Good luck with your project!

Cheers, Al
 
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I'm in no rush so will be weighing up all the options. Huge thanks to everyone for your input. I do appreciate when folks share their knowledge and experiences. I'm a new member here and am very impressed at the expertise and the welcoming attitude to a new member. In the meantime, I have had a crack at simply cleaning the dial (let's face it, it couldn't be much worse. As you have seen. the lettering and applied marks have completely gone (no doubt in a previous "restoration"!). The lacquer was mostly gone, so I removed the rest and simply cleaned the silvering underneath. It is vastly improved (pics to follow). I am sorely tempted to wear it as is for a while to see if I get used to it!
Mike
 
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The dial Before:-



and after a bit of cleaning:-



It reminds me of the chap down the road who "ratted" his car! Keeping good time now - amazing watches.

Mike
 
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Hi, i had this made a few years ago. I think the result is ok. But as said it is not an exact sience and the result can be different from time to time.

I live in Denmark and have used this refinishing guy several times.

Best Thomas





 
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Nice work but why "T SWISS MADE T"?
I do not see anything lumed on original or renewed dial
 
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Nice work but why "T SWISS MADE T"?
I do not see anything lumed on original or renewed dial

As i remember it, i send a picture of an other 2648 with a black dial as inspiration for the refinisher, so it will be my mistake. Anyway it will never be a collectors piece.

Best Thomas
 
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Oh dear oh dear! Item No. 161327332294 and only £20'ish. Still looking.
Mike