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Danger Will Robinson...The Peruvian Scammers Are Back!

  1. Pvt-Public Apr 14, 2015

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    And the item has been "lost or stolen" again.
     
  2. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Apr 14, 2015

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    The power of good will and reporting!!
     
  3. incabloc Jun 1, 2015

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  4. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jun 1, 2015

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    Unreal that Ebay and Paypal have not figured this out. Soon they will be seperate companies and the scammers will have even more of a field day.
     
  5. michaelmc Jun 1, 2015

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    +1, to many scammers out there. buy the seller if possible first.
     
  6. blacksharpie Jun 1, 2015

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    This thread is precisely why I love this forum. When I finally find my Speedmaster I'm positive it will be from a seller on this site.

    I'm nowhere near 200 posts yet and I desperately want to post in the WTB but I'm a fan of the policy.
     
  7. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jun 1, 2015

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    I don't think there's a rule against PM'ing one of the well known sellers here... get going!
     
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  8. blacksharpie Jun 1, 2015

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    haha. Yes, that's my plan! I've been lurking hoping that the perfect watch will pop up. Maybe I'll start a thread and get some opinions from the real collectors here on how to narrow my rapidly growing obsession.
     
  9. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jun 1, 2015

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    You can ask the moderators for permission to post your wtb before 200 posts.
     
  10. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jun 1, 2015

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    This thread is a fantastic warning to members of the growing number of scammers out there trying to part us vintage watch lovers of our money. However I do have to laugh as one year ago when I was just a casual lurker and not a member I purchased my first (and only) Speedmaster from of all places...Peru! It was from a seller with not a ton of feedback either. Well I lucked out. The watch arrived safely packed and as described. (Well I have my doubts that it was just serviced...). So not all people in Peru are scammers so don't generalize about locations but learn from this thread about buying the seller not the watch. Now if I had only read more on condition on the forum here I may not have purchased my Peruvian Speedmaster. It is not in great cosmetic shape but I Love it! Thank you forum members for all the knowledge you drop on us!
     
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  11. devnull Jun 1, 2015

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    I belong to another forum where we have a thriving community of people buying and selling form each other. We use a feedback system similar to eBay. It takes a while to build a high feedback rating but you can see who bought from whom and comments on the conditions and such. Low feedback users are expected to pay first and if selling to ship first, and there is always the option of asking a well established person to third party the deal.
     
  12. oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Jun 1, 2015

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    Where's the pic? I can't see it.
     
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  13. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jun 1, 2015

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    Here are a couple of photos I snapped tonight of my 1969 145.022 Crater Bezel from Peru. This was my second attempt at making a leather strap and it is more comfortable than my 1506.
     
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  14. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jun 2, 2015

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    Nice meteor shower bezel!
     
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  15. Giff2577 Quick with the tools! Jun 2, 2015

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    Thank you! I'm fond of it. Though I did pick up a new bezel insert with the intent to be able to swap bezels on occasion. Now I'm on the hunt for a donor Bezel for my insert.
     
  16. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jun 3, 2015

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  17. wsfarrell Jun 3, 2015

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    This guy shows a picture of a 321 movement with a serial number, and he offers "hassle-free" returns. I know PayPal won't get involved in an authenticity debate, but eBay will. Is this guy willing to lose both a PayPal account and an eBay account for a quick several thousand?
     
  18. faid2black Jun 3, 2015

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    Probably, yes, as it looks like it only took him a month to achieve a solid buyers feedback. I do have a hard time understanding why these scammers try going through ebay and or paypal. My experience with both heavily favor the buyer in any questionable transaction. Bank wire is another story but it doesn't seem they are pushing for it? Be smart out there
     
  19. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Jun 3, 2015

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    They use ebay to fish for buyers hoping the buyers message them. Then they look to do a scam deal via pp. This way they don't mess up their ebay account.
     
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  20. wsfarrell Jun 3, 2015

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    Good point. If nothing else, eBay will get you a lot of lookers.