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Dan S

Now you're obviously just trolling.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

no. not at all. you're trying to connect dots and reach absolutes with very broad strokes

larryganz

It's not our job to prove that counterfeit items fund terrorism. We state the facts, and there were some links which do directly support the claim. if you don't want to listen that's your choice. But people here will not respect the position you've taken.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

i don't' think any american would buy a rep watch if they know for certain that the money would be used against them..

but, yeah..it is your job to prove it if you're going to tie it together 1-1 with every rep.

So do you just say something is nonsense because it's your opinion? Two seconds on Google shows that it's not nonsense. This is a transcript from a 2005 senate hearing. It's just what I happened to find at the top of the search ... I'm sure a thorough search would find much more.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-109shrg21823/html/CHRG-109shrg21823.htm

Since you can't be bothered to verify your facts, here are a few paragraphs from the transcript:
...
Today, we explore another aspect of the shadowy world of
terrorism financing. The theft of intellectual property rights
through counterfeiting and pirating of consumer goods is a huge
and growing criminal enterprise. It is estimated that
counterfeit merchandise accounts for between 5 and 7 percent of
all the goods moved in world trade. According to Interpol, this
counterfeit merchandise is worth approximately $450 billion
annually. According to the U.S. Trade Representative, American
businesses lose as much as $250 billion each year to
counterfeiters.
...
For those unfamiliar with the terminology, counterfeit
goods are knock-offs or look-alikes of brand-name products,
such as this counterfeit Gucci watch. Goods are referred to as
pirated when criminals steal and sell the content of a
legitimate product, such as the latest Star Wars movie, already
out in pirated version, and copy it illegally without the
permission of its owner. Both kinds of illegal goods are often
referred to as counterfeit.

Combine counterfeiting's high profits with the uninformed
notion that the purchase of a knockoff designer handbag, a fake
wristwatch, or a pirated DVD is a victimless crime and it is no
surprise that the trade in counterfeit goods is extremely
lucrative. This criminal activity has damaging consequences for
our economy and for honest businesses and their employees.
Moreover, given the evidence that terrorists are engaging in
counterfeiting to secure money to support their operations, the
potential consequences are far more dire than economic damage.

The unclassified evidence linking terrorism and
counterfeiting is compelling and it spans several agencies and
years. For example, in a 2002 advisory entitled, ``Financing
Terror: Profits from Counterfeit Goods Pay for Attacks,'' the
Customs Service warned of an increasingly close connection
between transnational crime and terrorism with the profits from
counterfeit and pirated goods being the strongest link.
In 2003, the Secretary General of Interpol testified before
Congress that intellectual property crime, the pirating of such
products as software, CDs, and DVDs, is becoming the preferred
method of funding for a number of terrorist organizations. He
cited direct and indirect connections between counterfeiting
and Hezbollah, the Chechen rebels, extremist groups in Kosovo,
and al Qaeda, among others.

Also in 2003, the Terrorist Financing Operations Section of
the FBI provided a document to the Committee stating that the
sale of counterfeit goods is among the ways in which Hezbollah
finances its terrorist activities, and we have a graphic that
takes information from this FBI report.
In its 2004 report, ``Patterns of Global Terrorism,'' the
State Department wrote that the tri-border region of South
America, Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay, is a regional hub for
Hezbollah and Hamas fundraising activities, including the
manufacture and movement of pirated goods.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

i don't' think any american would buy a rep watch if they know for certain that the money would be used against them..

but, yeah..it is your job to prove it if you're going to tie it together 1-1 with every rep.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

you can go on vacation to any country and buy native goods that might or might not fun terrorist activities as well. could a vendor be doing this, yeah..they good. does that mean all of them doing it. ahhh, no. now substitute rep watches for native goods

larryganz

WHERE DO THEY GET THE F'ING FAKE WATCHES?

WHO FUNDS THE MANUFACTURE?

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE CHAIN OF PROFITS THAT MIGHT FUND TERROISM?

Those are the questions you should be asking. Maybe the guy that took your money isn't the terrorist, but he's just the fall guy. Cops go after the drug pushers and suppliers and distributors and up the chain to get to the cartel.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

focusing energies on widespread counterfeit goods mainly originating from the east is a waste of time and resources. not much can be done because it's a low level victim less crime for the most part.

sure if there's a major operation, in which one facet includes rep goods that is going to cause our country harm, great, go get the really bad guys.

it's a very dangerous and untrue statement to state all rep watches fund terrorism. saying that sounds like nothing more than north korean propaganda

Dan S

Larry, as I said previously, he's clearly trolling you. Nobody could really be that dense.

larryganz

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

lol just look at how silly your being trying to tie every rep watch to terrorism.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

focusing energies on widespread counterfeit goods mainly originating from the east is a waste of time and resources. not much can be done because it's a low level victim less crime for the most part.

sure if there's a major operation, in which one facet includes rep goods that is going to cause our country harm, great, go get the really bad guys.

it's a very dangerous and untrue statement to state all rep watches fund terrorism. saying that sounds like nothing more than north korean propaganda